Re: Heating woes

On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]: 
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>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13.05.2023 13.13,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merlyne 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [pruned]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [how spring-like]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['tis the season to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pruny] >>>>>>>>>> [pruny sounds like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what happens 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>> one  stays in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathtub 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too >> long] >>> [pruny sounds is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >> happens 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>> restroom when you eat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too >>>> many >> prunes.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I have nothing to add to that]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [And here I thought it would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>> good >>> conversation starter.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo! How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many >> prunes is too many? I eat a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few >> every >> day] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If either you or your detritus is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have had too many.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You could say that about most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I  once ate an entire bag of black
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> licorce 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one sitting. Not advisable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in moderation except moderation...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Licorice is great for raising your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood pressure as well as delicious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also unmoderated moderation gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really > boring after a while.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Does it? Colour me boring then]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll check if they have that next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time > I'm in the paint store.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I was hoping you were going to use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marker] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The only markers I have are black or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> red - neither of those are boring] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What do you consider boring? Grey?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [As colours go. Beige, off-white...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything that looks like it's been washed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too many times] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe I already look like I've been washed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too much] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Is that why you think you have a boring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colour?] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It was more about moderation]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Sometimes you just have to go all out. Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in... something like that] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [My brane hurts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You really should get one of those brane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> massage thingies] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Which?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The ones with the wires and the little balls...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR: Expecting a ].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Aren't those for massaging the scalp?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, you obviously have to remove the top of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scull first for the best results]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's always a catch. First you need the massage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thingie and then you get it out of the box and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need a Stryker saw. At this point, I've already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opened the box, so I can't send it back for a refund.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The replacement blades for that thing aren't cheap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I get part way around and realize I can't get my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skull undone at the back] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe the friendly people at the hardware store can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help you out. If I buy wood I can get it cut to size
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for DKK50 per cut...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I don't want someone who cuts wood for a living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing around with my  skull]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You should have some faith in your fellow human, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure they are perfectly competent. And willing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sanitise the blade for a nominal fee.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Hard pass]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If you prefer. But you don't know where that blade has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [*runs away*]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [There really is no way to please you, is there?]
>>>>>>>>>>> [Not when it comes to opening my head with a rusty blade, no}
>>>>>>>>>> *crying and shaking from TWO unbalanced parenthesises*
>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>> [The rusty part is on you, though, if you won't pay the
>>>>>>>>>> cleaning fee] 
>>>>>>>>> [Can I borrow some money? I'm a bit short right now]
>>>>>>>> [Doesn't your health insurance cover de-rusting?]
>>>>>>> [I doubt it. It covers only the essentials, not cosmetic things]
>>>>>> [You could argue that not un-rusting the saw is an infection risk,
>>>>>> so it could be more expensive in the long run.]
>>>>> [Have you every tried to argue with an insurance company?]
>>>> [Nope. But I'm sure they are all nice people with your best interest
>>>> in mind.]
>>> [I'm sure their profits are ahead of my welfare]
>> [It must be a miserable life to have mindset like that. But that's
>> CAPITALISM for you]
> [Money makes the world go around. I feel a song coming on]
[Is it the Internationale? Or maybe Le Marseillaise? Beneath the Red
Banner?]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [semantics no more]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Huh?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Left on the editor's floor]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I must have misunderstood the editor. I thought he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said my dress would look good on the floor]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I would think that's more of a producer's comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway that sort of thing doesn't happen any more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There was that scandal in the 30's, I think, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then all that nonsense stopped.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yeah, right. I used to sit beside the IT cluster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back in the 80's. They harrassed me (and other women)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every day. Well, the ones who weren't too scared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk to a girl did.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That must be a uniquely Canadian thing. Something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that would never happen here. Except for the head
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a major union. She had to resign recently, amid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accusations of bullying and harassment. And the bigwig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one of the political parties who 'elected to spend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more time with his family' or something not long ago.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [By harassment, I meant sexual harassment. I used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laugh it off. Nowadays the comments would be reported
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to HR.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Both examples above included/consisted of sexual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harassment. People who gain power think they can get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away with stuff. Down with power.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I've never had my job threatened]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Try harassing someone. That may work.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The harrassment courses that we to take don't give any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tips on how to harrass someone.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure they do. All the stuff where it says 'Don't do this' -
>>>>>>>>>>>> do that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They don't really do that anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>> The first time we took it, it was in a classroom. People
>>>>>>>>>>> where asking too many questions. Having met other people, I
>>>>>>>>>>> assume that scheduling everybody into a session is a
>>>>>>>>>>> logistical nightmare. They switched it to an online course
>>>>>>>>>>> with case studies. One was about a woman who took a lower
>>>>>>>>>>> paying job in a department after being harrassed by a
>>>>>>>>>>> coworker. The coworker was another woman who was mean to her
>>>>>>>>>>> and said things like 'I'm sick of covering for you' and
>>>>>>>>>>> shoved the first woman into the wall when they were alone in
>>>>>>>>>>> the washroom and stuff like that. It probably triggered
>>>>>>>>>>> someone. Now the course is online and focuses on the broad
>>>>>>>>>>> definition of harrassment and what you should do if you are
>>>>>>>>>>> harrassed and the steps of the process to resolve the
>>>>>>>>>>> complaint. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like it's the victims responsibility now.
>>>>>>>>> I think they don't take it seriously unless there are witnesses
>>>>>>>>> and stuff. Otherwise it turns into one of those
>>>>>>>>> he-said-she-said things. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One radical idea I just came up with is just not have
>>>>>>>>>> harassers going around in the work environment harassing
>>>>>>>>>> people... 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                      /don't
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you control other people especially bullies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I missed a word, which I do often since I think faster than I
>>>>>>> type. Let's go with that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Somebody surely controls whether they are/remain employed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. But you have a prove a case with Labour Relations and then
>>>>>>> it will go to arbitration and the bully will be given a chance to
>>>>>>> improve. The union will fight any dismissals. It's really hard to
>>>>>>> rid of people. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But if they spend their time bullying other people they can't also
>>>>>> be doing their job properly... So fire them for incompetence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah. That is also an uphill battle. *sigh*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Years ago, a co-worker spent time in jail because he molested a
>>>>>>>>> kid at his wife's daycare. The day before he came back, we were
>>>>>>>>> all herded into the boardroom and told that mentioning his
>>>>>>>>> crime or being mean to him was harrassment and anyone doing so
>>>>>>>>> would be fired. The system works.
>>>>>>>> Clearly...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So not the guy assigned to look after the kids at the company
>>>>>>>> picnic, I take it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would advise against it. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are so wise...
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the glasses, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> That, and the professional attire.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't mock the yoga pants!
>>
>> I'm not. Not at all. I'm all in favour of yoga pants. (Not on me,
>> though) 
>>
> 
> I do wear casual business attire on the days when I go into the office. 
> But I change into my pajamas as soon as I get home.

Exactly. Who doesn't look wise in pajamas?

-- 
BeH

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