Re: Heating woes

On 13.08.2023 23.28, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> 
>> On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>
>>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13.05.2023 13.13,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merlyne 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [pruned]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [how spring-like]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['tis the season to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pruny] >>>>>>>>>> [pruny sounds like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what happens 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>> one  stays in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathtub 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too >> long] >>> [pruny sounds is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >> happens 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>> restroom when you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eat >>>> too >>>> many >> prunes.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I have nothing to add to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that] >>>>>>>>> [And here I thought it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>> good >>> conversation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starter.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How >>>>>> many >> prunes is too many? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eat a >>>> few >> every >> day] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If either you or your detritus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>> running 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have had too many.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You could say that about most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I  once ate an entire bag of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black >>>>>> licorce 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one sitting. Not advisable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in moderation except
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moderation...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Licorice is great for raising
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>> blood pressure as well as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delicious. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also unmoderated moderation gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really > boring after a while.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Does it? Colour me boring then]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll check if they have that next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time > I'm in the paint store.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I was hoping you were going to use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marker] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The only markers I have are black or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> red - neither of those are boring] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What do you consider boring? Grey?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [As colours go. Beige, off-white...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything that looks like it's been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> washed too many times] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe I already look like I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> washed too much] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Is that why you think you have a boring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colour?] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It was more about moderation]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Sometimes you just have to go all out. Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in... something like that] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [My brane hurts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You really should get one of those brane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> massage thingies] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Which?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The ones with the wires and the little balls...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR: Expecting a ].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Aren't those for massaging the scalp?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, you obviously have to remove the top of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scull first for the best results]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's always a catch. First you need the massage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thingie and then you get it out of the box and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need a Stryker saw. At this point, I've already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opened the box, so I can't send it back for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refund. The replacement blades for that thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't cheap. Then I get part way around and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realize I can't get my skull undone at the back] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe the friendly people at the hardware store can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help you out. If I buy wood I can get it cut to size
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for DKK50 per cut...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I don't want someone who cuts wood for a living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing around with my  skull]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You should have some faith in your fellow human, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure they are perfectly competent. And willing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sanitise the blade for a nominal fee.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Hard pass]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If you prefer. But you don't know where that blade has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [*runs away*]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There really is no way to please you, is there?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Not when it comes to opening my head with a rusty blade,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no} 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *crying and shaking from TWO unbalanced parenthesises*
>>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [The rusty part is on you, though, if you won't pay the
>>>>>>>>>>>> cleaning fee] 
>>>>>>>>>>> [Can I borrow some money? I'm a bit short right now]
>>>>>>>>>> [Doesn't your health insurance cover de-rusting?]
>>>>>>>>> [I doubt it. It covers only the essentials, not cosmetic
>>>>>>>>> things] 
>>>>>>>> [You could argue that not un-rusting the saw is an infection
>>>>>>>> risk, so it could be more expensive in the long run.]
>>>>>>> [Have you every tried to argue with an insurance company?]
>>>>>> [Nope. But I'm sure they are all nice people with your best
>>>>>> interest in mind.]
>>>>> [I'm sure their profits are ahead of my welfare]
>>>> [It must be a miserable life to have mindset like that. But that's
>>>> CAPITALISM for you]
>>> [Money makes the world go around. I feel a song coming on]
>> [Is it the Internationale? Or maybe Le Marseillaise? Beneath the Red
>> Banner?]
> [Nope]
[I give up, then. What song?]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [semantics no more]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Huh?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Left on the editor's floor]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I must have misunderstood the editor. I thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he said my dress would look good on the floor]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I would think that's more of a producer's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comment. Anyway that sort of thing doesn't happen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any more. There was that scandal in the 30's, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think, and then all that nonsense stopped.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yeah, right. I used to sit beside the IT cluster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back in the 80's. They harrassed me (and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> women) every day. Well, the ones who weren't too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scared to talk to a girl did.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That must be a uniquely Canadian thing. Something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that would never happen here. Except for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head of a major union. She had to resign recently,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amid accusations of bullying and harassment. And the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigwig in one of the political parties who 'elected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to spend more time with his family' or something not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long ago.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [By harassment, I meant sexual harassment. I used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laugh it off. Nowadays the comments would be reported
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to HR.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Both examples above included/consisted of sexual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harassment. People who gain power think they can get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away with stuff. Down with power.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I've never had my job threatened]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Try harassing someone. That may work.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The harrassment courses that we to take don't give any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tips on how to harrass someone.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure they do. All the stuff where it says 'Don't do this'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - do that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't really do that anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first time we took it, it was in a classroom. People
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where asking too many questions. Having met other people, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that scheduling everybody into a session is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logistical nightmare. They switched it to an online course
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with case studies. One was about a woman who took a lower
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paying job in a department after being harrassed by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coworker. The coworker was another woman who was mean to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> her and said things like 'I'm sick of covering for you' and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shoved the first woman into the wall when they were alone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the washroom and stuff like that. It probably triggered
>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone. Now the course is online and focuses on the broad
>>>>>>>>>>>>> definition of harrassment and what you should do if you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> harrassed and the steps of the process to resolve the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like it's the victims responsibility now.
>>>>>>>>>>> I think they don't take it seriously unless there are
>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses and stuff. Otherwise it turns into one of those
>>>>>>>>>>> he-said-she-said things. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One radical idea I just came up with is just not have
>>>>>>>>>>>> harassers going around in the work environment harassing
>>>>>>>>>>>> people... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                      /don't
>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you control other people especially bullies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I missed a word, which I do often since I think faster than I
>>>>>>>>> type. Let's go with that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Somebody surely controls whether they are/remain employed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. But you have a prove a case with Labour Relations and then
>>>>>>>>> it will go to arbitration and the bully will be given a chance
>>>>>>>>> to improve. The union will fight any dismissals. It's really
>>>>>>>>> hard to rid of people. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But if they spend their time bullying other people they can't
>>>>>>>> also be doing their job properly... So fire them for
>>>>>>>> incompetence. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah. That is also an uphill battle. *sigh*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Years ago, a co-worker spent time in jail because he molested
>>>>>>>>>>> a kid at his wife's daycare. The day before he came back, we
>>>>>>>>>>> were all herded into the boardroom and told that mentioning
>>>>>>>>>>> his crime or being mean to him was harrassment and anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> doing so would be fired. The system works.
>>>>>>>>>> Clearly...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So not the guy assigned to look after the kids at the company
>>>>>>>>>> picnic, I take it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would advise against it. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are so wise...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's the glasses, isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That, and the professional attire.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't mock the yoga pants!
>>>>
>>>> I'm not. Not at all. I'm all in favour of yoga pants. (Not on me,
>>>> though) 
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do wear casual business attire on the days when I go into the
>>> office. But I change into my pajamas as soon as I get home.
>>
>> Exactly. Who doesn't look wise in pajamas?
>>
> 
> I look comfy. And probably tired.
> The 'wise' part is from the glasses and silver hair.
> Pretty sure.

I dunno. I have glasses and some silver hair - nobody have called me
wise lately...

-- 
BeH

" We are trapped by language to such a degree that every attempt to
formulate insight is a play on words." - Niels Bohr