Re: Heating woes
Merlyne <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | alt.acme.exploding.newsgroup |
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| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]: > On 24.08.2023 16.55, Merlyne wrote: >> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >> news:[email protected]: >> >>> On 18.08.2023 14.51, Merlyne wrote: >>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >>>> news:[email protected]: >>>> >>>>> On 13.08.2023 23.28, Merlyne wrote: >>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>> news:[email protected]: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote: >>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote: >>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13.05.2023 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13.13, >>>>>>>> Merlyne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [pruned] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [how spring-like] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['tis the season to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be >>>>>>>> pruny] >>>>>>>>>> [pruny >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sounds >>>> like >>>> what happens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>> one stays in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>> bathtub >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too >> long] >>> [pruny >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds >> is >>>>>> what >> happens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>> restroom when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>> eat >>>> too >>>> many >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prunes.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I have nothing to add >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to >>>>>> that] >>>>>>>>> [And here I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thought >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >> would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>> good >>> conversation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starter.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How >>>>>> many >> prunes is too >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many? I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eat a >>>> few >> every >> day] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If either you or your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detritus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have had too many.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You could say that about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>> things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I once ate an entire bag >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of >>>>>> black >>>>>> licorce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one sitting. Not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advisable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in moderation except >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moderation...] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Licorice is great for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>raising >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>> blood pressure as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>> delicious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also unmoderated moderation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>> really > boring after a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Does it? Colour me boring >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then] >>>>>>> [I'll check if they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have >> that next >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time > I'm in the paint store.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I was hoping you were going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use >> a >>>> marker] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The only markers I have are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>black >>>> or >>> red - neither of those >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are >>>> boring] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What do you consider boring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grey?] >>> [As colours go. Beige, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off-white... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything that looks like it's been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> washed too many times] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe I already look like I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>been >>>> washed too much] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Is that why you think you have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boring > colour?] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It was more about moderation] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Sometimes you just have to go all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out. > Or in... something like that] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [My brane hurts] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You really should get one of those >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brane massage thingies] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Which?] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The ones with the wires and the little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> balls... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR: Expecting a ]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Aren't those for massaging the scalp?] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, you obviously have to remove the top >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the scull first for the best results] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's always a catch. First you need the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> massage thingie and then you get it out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the box and see you need a Stryker saw. At >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this point, I've already opened the box, so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't send it back for a refund. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement blades for that thing aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheap. Then I get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part way around and realize I can't get my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skull undone at the back] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe the friendly people at the hardware >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store can help you out. If I buy wood I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get it cut to size for DKK50 per cut...] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I don't want someone who cuts wood for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living playing around with my skull] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You should have some faith in your fellow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human, I'm sure they are perfectly competent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And willing to sanitise the blade for a nominal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fee.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Hard pass] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If you prefer. But you don't know where that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blade has been.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [*runs away*] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There really is no way to please you, is there?] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Not when it comes to opening my head with a rusty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blade, no} >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *crying and shaking from TWO unbalanced parenthesises* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The rusty part is on you, though, if you won't pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cleaning fee] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Can I borrow some money? I'm a bit short right now] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Doesn't your health insurance cover de-rusting?] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I doubt it. It covers only the essentials, not cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> things] >>>>>>>>>>>>> [You could argue that not un-rusting the saw is an >>>>>>>>>>>>> infection risk, so it could be more expensive in the long >>>>>>>>>>>>> run.] >>>>>>>>>>>> [Have you every tried to argue with an insurance company?] >>>>>>>>>>> [Nope. But I'm sure they are all nice people with your best >>>>>>>>>>> interest in mind.] >>>>>>>>>> [I'm sure their profits are ahead of my welfare] >>>>>>>>> [It must be a miserable life to have mindset like that. But >>>>>>>>> that's CAPITALISM for you] >>>>>>>> [Money makes the world go around. I feel a song coming on] >>>>>>> [Is it the Internationale? Or maybe Le Marseillaise? Beneath the >>>>>>> Red Banner?] >>>>>> [Nope] >>>>> [I give up, then. What song?] >>>> [99 Red Balloons] >>> >>> But that's not even about capitalism... >> >> I know. I just like the song. > {opium for the working classes... bread and circus... similar catchy > phrases of pedantic disapproval} I see -- you dislike my taste in music. > Did you know that "Hagen" is danish for 'the chin'. Wow! Fascinating... Isn't Hagen an aquarium supply company? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [semantics no more] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Huh?] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Left on the editor's floor] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I must have misunderstood the editor. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought he said my dress would look good on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the floor] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I would think that's more of a producer's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comment. Anyway that sort of thing doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen any more. There was that scandal in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 30's, I think, and then all that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense stopped.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yeah, right. I used to sit beside the IT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluster back in the 80's. They harrassed me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (and other women) every day. Well, the ones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who weren't too scared to talk to a girl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That must be a uniquely Canadian thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something like that would never happen here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Except for the head of a major union. She had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to resign recently, amid accusations of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullying and harassment. And the bigwig in one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the political parties who 'elected to spend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more time with his family' or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something not long ago.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [By harassment, I meant sexual harassment. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used to laugh it off. Nowadays the comments >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be reported to HR.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Both examples above included/consisted of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sexual harassment. People who gain power think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can get away with stuff. Down with power.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I've never had my job threatened] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Try harassing someone. That may work.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The harrassment courses that we to take don't give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any tips on how to harrass someone.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure they do. All the stuff where it says 'Don't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this' - do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't really do that anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first time we took it, it was in a classroom. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People where asking too many questions. Having met >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other people, I assume that scheduling everybody into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a session is a logistical nightmare. They switched it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to an online course with case studies. One was about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a woman who took a lower paying job in a department >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after being harrassed by a coworker. The coworker was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another woman who was mean to her and said things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like 'I'm sick of covering for you' and shoved the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first woman into the wall when they were alone in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> washroom and stuff like that. It probably triggered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone. Now the course is online and focuses on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broad definition of harrassment and what you should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do if you are harrassed and the steps of the process >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to resolve the complaint. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like it's the victims responsibility now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they don't take it seriously unless there are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses and stuff. Otherwise it turns into one of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those he-said-she-said things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One radical idea I just came up with is just not have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harassers going around in the work environment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harassing people... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you control other people especially >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullies. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I missed a word, which I do often since I think faster >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than I type. Let's go with that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody surely controls whether they are/remain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. But you have a prove a case with Labour Relations >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then it will go to arbitration and the bully will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> given a chance to improve. The union will fight any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dismissals. It's really hard to rid of people. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But if they spend their time bullying other people they >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't also be doing their job properly... So fire them for >>>>>>>>>>>>> incompetence. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah. That is also an uphill battle. *sigh* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Years ago, a co-worker spent time in jail because he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> molested a kid at his wife's daycare. The day before he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came back, we were all herded into the boardroom and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that mentioning his crime or being mean to him was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harrassment and anyone doing so would be fired. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system works. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So not the guy assigned to look after the kids at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company picnic, I take it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would advise against it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You are so wise... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's the glasses, isn't it? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That, and the professional attire. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't mock the yoga pants! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not. Not at all. I'm all in favour of yoga pants. (Not on >>>>>>>>> me, though) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do wear casual business attire on the days when I go into the >>>>>>>> office. But I change into my pajamas as soon as I get home. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Exactly. Who doesn't look wise in pajamas? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I look comfy. And probably tired. >>>>>> The 'wise' part is from the glasses and silver hair. >>>>>> Pretty sure. >>>>> >>>>> I dunno. I have glasses and some silver hair - nobody have called >>>>> me wise lately... >>>>> >>>> You need to go out and socialize. >>> >>> I'm busy. Anyway I go out all the time. Tomorrow for example I'm >>> going out to buy tobacco. And food, probably. >>> >> A wise decision. > A bare necessity... Yep. Food, water and sex are at the bottom of the needs pyramid. > >> Well, except for the tobacco. > Had I not bought tobacco, I would shortly thereafter have been without > any tobacco, which would have been a bad (and unwise) thing. > There are few things more unwise than consuming tobacco products.