Re: HOPE but not faith
Skeeter <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.agnosticism,talk.philosophy.humanism,sci.skeptic,alt.magick |
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| Organization | UTB inc. |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > > Michael McLean wrote: > > On 10/04/2023 7:03 am, El Kabong wrote: > > > Skeeter wrote: > > >> [email protected] says... > > >>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 08-Apr-23 2:52 pm, Michael McLean wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is the consequence of something. No thing can create itself. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>  It needs a cause. Thus eternal God or nothing would be here. No thing > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can "be" before it is in order to bring itself into "being." > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> So, God can be eternal, but nothing else can, because.....? > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> He created it? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Could God create an eternal universe if he wanted to? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> It wouldn't be eternal if it was created. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> So you mean no, God isn't powerful enough to create an > > >>>>>>> eternal universe. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Twist it around as usual. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> You said it, not me. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> If it was created it cannot be eternal. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Of course it can. Any omnipotent god can create > > >>>>> something that lasts forever. If he can't, he's not > > >>>>> omnipotent and he needs to go back to god school. > > >>>> > > >>>> If it was created it had a beginning. > > >>> > > >>> So? > > >> > > >> Spnak! > > > > > > You are running away again, skeetzoid. > > > > Do you see how easy Skeeter kicks your ass? :-). > > I see how both of you do a lot of talking. > It's your way of diving into the weeds when > you can't hold your own. > > Why didn't you invent an omnipotent god? > If it has a beginning it can't be eternal. What is so hard about that?