Re: HOPE but not faith
El Kabong <[email protected]>
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Michael McLean wrote: > On 11/04/2023 8:23 am, El Kabong wrote: > > Skeeter wrote: > >> [email protected] says... > >>> Michael McLean wrote: > >>>> On 10/04/2023 7:03 am, El Kabong wrote: > >>>>> Skeeter wrote: > >>>>>> [email protected] says... > >>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > >>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > >>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > >>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08-Apr-23 2:52 pm, Michael McLean wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is the consequence of something. No thing can create itself. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  It needs a cause. Thus eternal God or nothing would be here. No thing > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can "be" before it is in order to bring itself into "being." > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, God can be eternal, but nothing else can, because.....? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He created it? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Could God create an eternal universe if he wanted to? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be eternal if it was created. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> So you mean no, God isn't powerful enough to create an > >>>>>>>>>>> eternal universe. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Twist it around as usual. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> You said it, not me. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> If it was created it cannot be eternal. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Of course it can. Any omnipotent god can create > >>>>>>>>> something that lasts forever. If he can't, he's not > >>>>>>>>> omnipotent and he needs to go back to god school. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If it was created it had a beginning. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Spnak! > >>>>> > >>>>> You are running away again, skeetzoid. > >>>> > >>>> Do you see how easy Skeeter kicks your ass? :-). > >>> > >>> I see how both of you do a lot of talking. > >>> It's your way of diving into the weeds when > >>> you can't hold your own. > >>> > >>> Why didn't you invent an omnipotent god? > >>> > >> If it has a beginning it can't be eternal. What is so hard about that? > > > > Nope. Try again. > > Moron fool atheist! Nope. Try again.