Re: HOPE but not faith
Skeeter <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.agnosticism,talk.philosophy.humanism,sci.skeptic,alt.magick |
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| Organization | UTB inc. |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > > Skeeter wrote: > > [email protected] says... > > > Michael McLean wrote: > > > > On 10/04/2023 7:03 am, El Kabong wrote: > > > > > Skeeter wrote: > > > > >> [email protected] says... > > > > >>> Skeeter wrote: > > > > >>>> [email protected] says... > > > > >>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > > > >>>>>> [email protected] says... > > > > >>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > > > > >>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 08-Apr-23 2:52 pm, Michael McLean wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is the consequence of something. No thing can create itself. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>  It needs a cause. Thus eternal God or nothing would be here. No thing > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can "be" before it is in order to bring itself into "being." > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> So, God can be eternal, but nothing else can, because.....? > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> He created it? > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Could God create an eternal universe if he wanted to? > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> It wouldn't be eternal if it was created. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> So you mean no, God isn't powerful enough to create an > > > > >>>>>>> eternal universe. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Twist it around as usual. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> You said it, not me. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>> If it was created it cannot be eternal. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Of course it can. Any omnipotent god can create > > > > >>>>> something that lasts forever. If he can't, he's not > > > > >>>>> omnipotent and he needs to go back to god school. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> If it was created it had a beginning. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> So? > > > > >> > > > > >> Spnak! > > > > > > > > > > You are running away again, skeetzoid. > > > > > > > > Do you see how easy Skeeter kicks your ass? :-). > > > > > > I see how both of you do a lot of talking. > > > It's your way of diving into the weeds when > > > you can't hold your own. > > > > > > Why didn't you invent an omnipotent god? > > > > > If it has a beginning it can't be eternal. What is so hard about that? > > Nope. Try again. Yes and now you run.