Re: HOPE but not faith
Skeeter <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.agnosticism,talk.philosophy.humanism,sci.skeptic,alt.magick |
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| Organization | UTB inc. |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > > Michael McLean <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 11/04/2023 4:52 pm, El Kabong wrote: > > > Michael McLean wrote: > > >> On 11/04/2023 8:23 am, El Kabong wrote: > > >>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>> Michael McLean wrote: > > >>>>>> On 10/04/2023 7:03 am, El Kabong wrote: > > >>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08-Apr-23 2:52 pm, Michael McLean wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is the consequence of something. No thing can create itself. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  It needs a cause. Thus eternal God or nothing would be here. No thing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can "be" before it is in order to bring itself into "being." > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, God can be eternal, but nothing else can, because.....? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He created it? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could God create an eternal universe if he wanted to? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be eternal if it was created. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> So you mean no, God isn't powerful enough to create an > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> eternal universe. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Twist it around as usual. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> You said it, not me. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> If it was created it cannot be eternal. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Of course it can. Any omnipotent god can create > > >>>>>>>>>>> something that lasts forever. If he can't, he's not > > >>>>>>>>>>> omnipotent and he needs to go back to god school. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> If it was created it had a beginning. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> So? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Spnak! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> You are running away again, skeetzoid. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Do you see how easy Skeeter kicks your ass? :-). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I see how both of you do a lot of talking. > > >>>>> It's your way of diving into the weeds when > > >>>>> you can't hold your own. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Why didn't you invent an omnipotent god? > > >>>>> > > >>>> If it has a beginning it can't be eternal. What is so hard about that? > > >>> > > >>> Nope. Try again. > > >> > > >> Moron fool atheist! > > > > > > Nope. Try again. > > > There you go, you self-created fool. > > Nope. > > You really struggle to focus, don't you. Have you ever > been evaluated for ADHD? Why? because he thinks you're a self created fool?