Re: HOPE but not faith
El Kabong <[email protected]>
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Michael McLean <[email protected]> wrote: > On 11/04/2023 4:52 pm, El Kabong wrote: > > Michael McLean wrote: > >> On 11/04/2023 8:23 am, El Kabong wrote: > >>> Skeeter wrote: > >>>> [email protected] says... > >>>>> Michael McLean wrote: > >>>>>> On 10/04/2023 7:03 am, El Kabong wrote: > >>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > >>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > >>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > >>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08-Apr-23 2:52 pm, Michael McLean wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is the consequence of something. No thing can create itself. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  It needs a cause. Thus eternal God or nothing would be here. No thing > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can "be" before it is in order to bring itself into "being." > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, God can be eternal, but nothing else can, because.....? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He created it? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could God create an eternal universe if he wanted to? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be eternal if it was created. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> So you mean no, God isn't powerful enough to create an > >>>>>>>>>>>>> eternal universe. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Twist it around as usual. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> You said it, not me. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> If it was created it cannot be eternal. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Of course it can. Any omnipotent god can create > >>>>>>>>>>> something that lasts forever. If he can't, he's not > >>>>>>>>>>> omnipotent and he needs to go back to god school. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> If it was created it had a beginning. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> So? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Spnak! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You are running away again, skeetzoid. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Do you see how easy Skeeter kicks your ass? :-). > >>>>> > >>>>> I see how both of you do a lot of talking. > >>>>> It's your way of diving into the weeds when > >>>>> you can't hold your own. > >>>>> > >>>>> Why didn't you invent an omnipotent god? > >>>>> > >>>> If it has a beginning it can't be eternal. What is so hard about that? > >>> > >>> Nope. Try again. > >> > >> Moron fool atheist! > > > > Nope. Try again. > There you go, you self-created fool. Nope. You really struggle to focus, don't you. Have you ever been evaluated for ADHD?