Re: HOPE but not faith
Skeeter <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.agnosticism,talk.philosophy.humanism,sci.skeptic,alt.magick |
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| Organization | UTB inc. |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > > Michael McLean wrote: > > On 11/04/2023 8:23 am, El Kabong wrote: > > > Skeeter wrote: > > >> [email protected] says... > > >>> Michael McLean wrote: > > >>>> On 10/04/2023 7:03 am, El Kabong wrote: > > >>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08-Apr-23 2:52 pm, Michael McLean wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is the consequence of something. No thing can create itself. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  It needs a cause. Thus eternal God or nothing would be here. No thing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can "be" before it is in order to bring itself into "being." > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, God can be eternal, but nothing else can, because.....? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He created it? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Could God create an eternal universe if he wanted to? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be eternal if it was created. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> So you mean no, God isn't powerful enough to create an > > >>>>>>>>>>> eternal universe. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Twist it around as usual. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> You said it, not me. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> If it was created it cannot be eternal. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Of course it can. Any omnipotent god can create > > >>>>>>>>> something that lasts forever. If he can't, he's not > > >>>>>>>>> omnipotent and he needs to go back to god school. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> If it was created it had a beginning. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> So? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Spnak! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> You are running away again, skeetzoid. > > >>>> > > >>>> Do you see how easy Skeeter kicks your ass? :-). > > >>> > > >>> I see how both of you do a lot of talking. > > >>> It's your way of diving into the weeds when > > >>> you can't hold your own. > > >>> > > >>> Why didn't you invent an omnipotent god? > > >>> > > >> If it has a beginning it can't be eternal. What is so hard about that? > > > > > > Nope. Try again. > > > > Moron fool atheist! > > Nope. Try again. So far everyone but you has it right.