Re: something from nothing ?

On 1/21/2026 9:04 AM, Dale wrote:
> On 1/21/2026 9:44 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 1/20/2026 8:38 PM, Dale wrote:
>>> On 1/14/2026 11:24 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> On 1/14/2026 7:29 PM, Dale wrote:
>>>>> On 1/11/2026 11:23 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/11/2026 10:18 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/11/2026 10:05 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/10/2026 2:13 PM, Dale wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> something from nothing ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> magic ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if nothing comes to God's mind does God make something out of it ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/yuga.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe the Cosmos is eternal, and without a beginning:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like my version of Yuga Cycles
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/yuga.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yuga Cycles are Hindu Universal Cause and Effect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brahma is the Creation Cycle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahma
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vishnu is the Maintenance Cycle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shiva is the Destruction Cycle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kali is the Female Cycle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are some things I add ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Each Cycle is a mindset of a Single God.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kali stops the Shiva Destruction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kali allows Eternal Vishnu Maintenance, Including Maintenance of 
>>>>>>> the availability of Creation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kali births new New Brahma Creation for those of New Creation too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All (or some) of that may be true, or none of it may be true; it's 
>>>>>> outside of Science.  You're free to believe in "whatever" you want 
>>>>>> to believe in; others are free to do the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>
>>>>> science can be outside of logic too ?
>>>>>
>>>>> quantum uncertainty ?
>>>>>
>>>>> what are the possibilities of digital and analog computing ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see the differences as being between the formal, empirical and 
>>>> quasi- sciences; for the first category, such would be mathematics, 
>>>> logic, etc.; for the second, physics, chemistry, biology, sociology, 
>>>> etc.; and, for the last, things like the study of history, which 
>>>> insists on the existence of evidences to support one's conclusions.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, evidence is key, as opposed to faith, feeling, 
>>>> authority, religious beliefs and/or traditions, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>
>>>
>>> induction, deduction
>>>
>>> reversible induction or deduction is hypothesis
>>>
>>> testable hypothesis is theory
>>>
>>> theory sampling can include a statistical assumption
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No.  See here:
>>
>> https://www.nationalacademies.org/evolution-resources
> 
> 
> are you saying you can test the beginning of a virtual particle without 
> out having magic ?
> 
> part of the whole is the concept of nothing and the whole can use it ?
> 
> part of the whole is also conscious ?
> 

No, science is about building models and testing those models through 
experiment, observation, or, in the case of the formal sciences 
(mathematics, logic, etc.), formal proofs.  As for virtual particles, 
such is the domain of QFT (Quantum Field Theory), and I am not an expert 
in that; there are physicists who explain that.  The late Professor 
Steven Weinberg wrote a 3-volume tome on QFT; I haven't read it, but 
that is where people should go if they really want to understand such 
things on a quantitative level.  On a more qualitative level, the 
Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle allows for the existence of such 
particles, and Google AI has a nice description of that.

Dawn