Re: NASA caught LYING TO YOU again!

Attila wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:35:24 -0500, Dawn Flood
> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/27/2025 1:43 AM, JTEM wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/24/25 11:48 PM, Pro Plyd wrote:
>>>
>>>   > In April, a team of scientists based at the
>>>   > University of Cambridge claimed that a planet
>>>   > orbiting a distant star bore a possible
>>>   > signature of life.
>>>
>>> Talking about this story:
>>>
>>> https://archive.is/ApwLm
>>>
>>> This was confirmation of a previous analysis of the
>>> very same planet.
>>>
>>> The planet has been of special interests since at
>>> least 2015. It was considered a candidate for life
>>> back then. They detected Dimethyl sulfide in the
>>> atmosphere two years ago, or at least that's when
>>> it was reported, and they confirmed the findings
>>> again in April.
>>>
>>> Dimethyl sulfide is a VERY tasty biosignature
>>> because, unlike most biosignatures, we know of
>>> no non-biological means to produce it. They also
>>> found other "Biosignatures" but this dimethyl
>>> sulfide is so exciting because, as far as anyone
>>> knows, it can only come from life.
>>>
>>> Well. It can be the result of industrial emissions,
>>> yes, but those in turn are the product of biological
>>> activity i.e. man.
>>>
>>> So they found MORE THAN ONE biosignature and even
>>> got a confirmation of this all important Dimethyl
>>> sulfide signature. And...
>>>
>>>   > But the new observations have failed to confirm
>>>   > evidence for life.
>>>
>>> This is not true. Read the cite.
>>>
>>> We have a detection of biosignatures. We have a
>>> confirmation of those biosignatures. And then we
>>> have a "Failed to Confirm."
>>>
>>> It's been confirmed. At least twice now.
>>>
>>>   > In the original study, the
>>>   > Cambridge team claimed that K2-18b appeared to
>>>   > have a gas in its atmosphere that on Earth is
>>>   > produced only by living things. The NASA study
>>>   > did not find strong evidence for that gas.
>>>
>>> This is stating that they found evidence for the gas.
>>>
>>> "Strong" is the word you need to take note of. They
>>> are NOT saying that they did not find evidence, they
>>> are saying that they did find evidence but it's not
>>> very "Strong."
>>>
>>> So we have three studies finding evidence for this
>>> Dimethyl sulfide....
>>>
>>>   > What’s more, the NASA team argues that even if
>>>   > the gas was on K2-18b,
>>>
>>> There are ZERO non biological sources on the planet
>>> earth. There are ZERO known non biological sources.
>>>
>>> The gas was found in 2023. They confirmed that finding
>>> in April. Now NASA just found evidence for that gas though
>>> they say it's not "Strong" evidence... and that a gas with
>>> ZERO non biological sources could have resulted from a
>>> non biological source....
>>>
>>> They are lying. Again.
>>>
>>> NASA is phenomenally consistent with the denial of any
>>> evidence for life outside of earth. I've already been
>>> over this in the example of Mars...
>>>
>>>   > it might have formed
>>>   > through mere chemistry.
>>>
>>> It's not know to have EVER come into existence from a
>>> non biological source.
>>>
>>>   > What once seemed like
>>>   > a promising clue of life — a biosignature —
>>>   > might be a mirage.
>>>
>>> Actually, it looks more like NASA is actively squashing
>>> the story. The exact same NASA that went searching for life
>>> on Mars using optics that can't even see bacterial life on
>>> earth, most of it anyway, or any suspected like on Mars (the
>>> famous structures within the Mars Rock) is telling you that
>>> a biosignature with precisely ZERO known non-biological
>>> sources may have originated from a non-biological source, and
>>> that's why a second confirmation (at least) of biosignatures
>>> is not any kind of confirmation....
>>>
>>> But even their claims here, which as incredibly misleading,
>>> do imply that they found alien life.
>>>
>>> NASA found evidence for that life!  They say it's not
>>> "Strong" evidence but even "Less than strong evidence" is
>>> still evidence, AND TOGETHER WITH THE PREVIOUS FINDINGS
>>> strengthens the claim that we have found a life bearing
>>> world.
>>>
>>> NASA is a government agency. They do not exist to inform you.
>>> They exist to carry out policy, not make it.
>>>
>>
>> The term for this is "science".  No, no one is lying; rather, some
>> investigators are either simply wrong or extrapolating beyond the
>> evidences that are currently available.  In either case, everyone is
>> acting in good faith!
> 
> These discussions usually leave out one critical phrase -
> "life as we know it".
> 
> However it is possible there is a lot of life as we don't
> know it and such life could leave signs we cannot recognize.
> It is all guesswork on all sides until we actually go and
> see.
> 

i feel we will detect life outside our planet before 2050.