Re: NASA caught LYING TO YOU again!

On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:35:24 -0500, Dawn Flood
<[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 7/27/2025 1:43 AM, JTEM wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/24/25 11:48 PM, Pro Plyd wrote:
>> 
>>  > In April, a team of scientists based at the
>>  > University of Cambridge claimed that a planet
>>  > orbiting a distant star bore a possible
>>  > signature of life.
>> 
>> Talking about this story:
>> 
>> https://archive.is/ApwLm
>> 
>> This was confirmation of a previous analysis of the
>> very same planet.
>> 
>> The planet has been of special interests since at
>> least 2015. It was considered a candidate for life
>> back then. They detected Dimethyl sulfide in the
>> atmosphere two years ago, or at least that's when
>> it was reported, and they confirmed the findings
>> again in April.
>> 
>> Dimethyl sulfide is a VERY tasty biosignature
>> because, unlike most biosignatures, we know of
>> no non-biological means to produce it. They also
>> found other "Biosignatures" but this dimethyl
>> sulfide is so exciting because, as far as anyone
>> knows, it can only come from life.
>> 
>> Well. It can be the result of industrial emissions,
>> yes, but those in turn are the product of biological
>> activity i.e. man.
>> 
>> So they found MORE THAN ONE biosignature and even
>> got a confirmation of this all important Dimethyl
>> sulfide signature. And...
>> 
>>  > But the new observations have failed to confirm
>>  > evidence for life.
>> 
>> This is not true. Read the cite.
>> 
>> We have a detection of biosignatures. We have a
>> confirmation of those biosignatures. And then we
>> have a "Failed to Confirm."
>> 
>> It's been confirmed. At least twice now.
>> 
>>  > In the original study, the
>>  > Cambridge team claimed that K2-18b appeared to
>>  > have a gas in its atmosphere that on Earth is
>>  > produced only by living things. The NASA study
>>  > did not find strong evidence for that gas.
>> 
>> This is stating that they found evidence for the gas.
>> 
>> "Strong" is the word you need to take note of. They
>> are NOT saying that they did not find evidence, they
>> are saying that they did find evidence but it's not
>> very "Strong."
>> 
>> So we have three studies finding evidence for this
>> Dimethyl sulfide....
>> 
>>  > What’s more, the NASA team argues that even if
>>  > the gas was on K2-18b,
>> 
>> There are ZERO non biological sources on the planet
>> earth. There are ZERO known non biological sources.
>> 
>> The gas was found in 2023. They confirmed that finding
>> in April. Now NASA just found evidence for that gas though
>> they say it's not "Strong" evidence... and that a gas with
>> ZERO non biological sources could have resulted from a
>> non biological source....
>> 
>> They are lying. Again.
>> 
>> NASA is phenomenally consistent with the denial of any
>> evidence for life outside of earth. I've already been
>> over this in the example of Mars...
>> 
>>  > it might have formed
>>  > through mere chemistry.
>> 
>> It's not know to have EVER come into existence from a
>> non biological source.
>> 
>>  > What once seemed like
>>  > a promising clue of life — a biosignature —
>>  > might be a mirage.
>> 
>> Actually, it looks more like NASA is actively squashing
>> the story. The exact same NASA that went searching for life
>> on Mars using optics that can't even see bacterial life on
>> earth, most of it anyway, or any suspected like on Mars (the
>> famous structures within the Mars Rock) is telling you that
>> a biosignature with precisely ZERO known non-biological
>> sources may have originated from a non-biological source, and
>> that's why a second confirmation (at least) of biosignatures
>> is not any kind of confirmation....
>> 
>> But even their claims here, which as incredibly misleading,
>> do imply that they found alien life.
>> 
>> NASA found evidence for that life!  They say it's not
>> "Strong" evidence but even "Less than strong evidence" is
>> still evidence, AND TOGETHER WITH THE PREVIOUS FINDINGS
>> strengthens the claim that we have found a life bearing
>> world.
>> 
>> NASA is a government agency. They do not exist to inform you.
>> They exist to carry out policy, not make it.
>> 
>
>The term for this is "science".  No, no one is lying; rather, some 
>investigators are either simply wrong or extrapolating beyond the 
>evidences that are currently available.  In either case, everyone is 
>acting in good faith!

These discussions usually leave out one critical phrase -
"life as we know it".

However it is possible there is a lot of life as we don't
know it and such life could leave signs we cannot recognize.
It is all guesswork on all sides until we actually go and
see.

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