Re: "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock

"poster" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
"Willie Denson" <678.714.5764@georgia_bell.com> wrote in message 
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> On 10/24/2021 10:49 AM, poster wrote:
>> "678.714.5764" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Discuss.
>>
>> If livestock doesn't get to experience life, then no, there wouldn't be 
>> any
>> benefit to it. It does get to experience life, and therein lies the 
>> benefit
>> to it.
>>
>>
>
> "Getting to experience life" in the first place, which is Fuckwit's 
> tortured expression for coming into existence, is not a benefit in any 
> way.  An entity must already exist in order to realize any benefit.

Livestock does already exist as a separate entity, as a collection of 
animals bred for our benefit. An entity doesn't have to realize a benefit to 
benefit.

> A benefit is an improvement in the welfare of an entity.

Livestock doesn't have a welfare but it does benefit by growing in size when 
more animals are bred into it, much like a company might benefit with more 
floor space, more machinery, more staff.

> Coming into existence does not improve the welfare of any entity - it 
> establishes the entity and its welfare, but it does not improve it.
>
> "Getting to experience life," i.e. coming into existence, is not a benefit 
> for livestock or any other welfare-bearing entity.

Livestock doesn't have a welfare.
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