Re: Existence - not "better" than never existing

Bob Casanova <[email protected]> Mon, 14 Apr 2025 12:34:23 -0700
Newsgroups alt.philosophy,alt.atheism,sci.skeptic,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,sci.environment
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 09:31:04 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Ron Hamilton
<[email protected]>:

>On 1/21/2011 10:18 AM, T. Howard Pines, Jr. wrote:
>> Coming into existence, or "getting to experience life", is not better than never 
>> existing.  It can't be, because no such comparison can be made.  Nor can 
>> existence be worse than never existing, for the same reason.
>
>Correct.
>
Agreed. While the stated comparison isn't, strictly speaking
and AFAIK, a logical fallacy, it *is* an error in logic.
>> 
>> In order to say that anything is better or worse for an entity, one necessarily 
>> is talking about two different states of welfare or well-being for the entity.  
>> But an entity must exist in order to have a welfare state of well-being.  Thus, 
>> the comparison between existence and non-existence, from the perspective of the 
>> entity, cannot be made.  It is absurd.
>
>Also correct.
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Bob C.

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