How To Do It - According to Gilgamesh
"62hx.1708" <[email protected]> Mon, 20 May 2024 00:55:58 -0400
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5000 years ago ... In the Sumerian epic of Gilgamesh, a super-alpha male from Uruk, supposedly 2/3rds god, our hero decided that he wants the cedars of Lebanon - likely extremely valuable at the time. SO ... he and his best bud make a quest to the forest of cedars. It has guardians/owners. He destroys them and steals-away their precious trees. WANTING alone is justification. KILLING/THEFT is the means to the end. Might makes right. Just AMAZING how LITTLE has changed in human/social psychology since then eh ? The epic of Gilgamesh (and he had lots of adventures) were writ in Akkadian - the successor empire to the Sumerians. Some bits were reproduced even later in Babylonian. Proper transcripts usually have to borrow from both tellings - and there are blanks in the story from where ancient tablets crumbled. Sumer is basically the first known civ. The city of Eridu - in what would now be Qatar - was the first real city, but Ur and Uruk did it much bigger and better and became what at the time were big metros. All the perks and sciences associated with civ appeared - and the MISTAKES too. Was Gilgamesh a real person ? Maybe kinda ... but more like he was symbolic of original-empire kings AND their way of thinking. I see him as a composite figure, the sum of a number of kings/conquerors. Makes a good story ! Oh, note that Gilgamesh was basically commanded/ compelled to go with a homosexual relationship with his best bud, the "wild-boy" Enkidu ... specifically created for him by the gods and "civilized" by a sexy human woman (to his later lament). Gilgamesh was SO overpowering/overbearing that the gods were begged for someone who could become his best bud and kinda reign him in. So, no, "queer" has been around since forever and wasn't always seen as so odd. Doesn't mean "queer" should RUN everything though ... just that it's an eternal part of the equation. What was going on 10,000 years ago ? Hard to say. No writing, not even much in the way of hieroglyphics. There were megalithic sites in what's now southern Turkey - rivals to Stonehenge and LOTS of them - but we don't know what it was all about. Still, there WAS "civilization" of a sort - large-scale cooperative effort and tech/skill we didn't think existed at that time. I *suspect* there was more going on before and just after the ice-age too than we imagine, but time and nature have hidden most of the evidence. Sea level came up over 100 meters at the end of the ice-age and yes there WERE huge floods (just not 'global') from all that melt-water - drowning many old oceanside and riverside settlements. We're gonna have to go fish for them. The Persian Gulf did not exist during the ice age ... it was all dry land with one river, the merger of the Tigris and Euphrates, running down the middle - fertile and inviting, a perfect spot for early civs. Sumer was probably NOT the first civ ... just the earliest we've found good evidence for. My BEST guess - the seeds of civ started to the east, the Indus valley/India, just took longer to get really big.