Re: PPB: Poem for Kathy / Will Dockery

[email protected] (NancyGene) posted:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Miguel Sucio wrote:
> 
>>> [snip]
> >> 
> >> Okay, you're right, for whatever reasons neither Pendragon or Dance has responded on the correct way to use a comma "inside quotation marks."
> >> 
> >> I suppose it isn't worth arguing about, anyhow, so we can just forget about it if you want to.
> >> 
> >> If GJD or Pendragon see this and want to comment, fine. Otherwise I say let's not continue wasting time going around and around over it.
> >> 
> >> If it happens again I'll probably mention it, but I have a feeling you won't be making that same mistake again, Miguel.
> >>
> > I suspect that it may be a time-waster, but since you name-checked me I'll venture
> > one quick response.
> > 
> > First off, the he /Chicago Manual of Style/ agrees with you. Here's an example:
> > "In publications that follow Chicago style, commas and periods are placed before a closing quotation mark, “like this,” rather than after, “like this”. This convention has persisted even though it’s no longer universally followed outside the United States and isn’t entirely logical.
> > The other standard marks of sentence punctuation"semicolons, colons, question marks, exclamation points, and dashes"go after a closing quotation mark unless they belong to the quoted matter."
> > 
> > That's the rule in American English (whichh follows CMoS), and if you're a student at an American school, or writing for
> > an American publicaition, that's the rule you should follow.
> > 
> > Since I'm neither, I don't follow that rule; I prefer the more logical one of putting commas and periods inside the
> > quotation marks only if they are part of the quoted material. when a complete sentence is being quoted, it makes
> > sense to put the period inside, or a comma if it's taking the place of a period:
> > 
> > He said, "I'll do that when time permits."
> > or
> > "I'll do that when time permits," he said.
> > 
> > But if you're quoting a sentecce fragment, which doesn't end with any punctuation, it makes sense to not include punctuation:
> > 
> > He said he'll do that "when time permits".
> > or
> > He'll do that "when time permits", or so he said.
> > 
> > Having corresponded with MMP for more than a decade, I have a good idea how he'd respond. He's a champion of
> > American English, and likes to quote /CMOS/. However, since he probably considers it more important to never
> > ackowledge that you're right about anything, I suspect he won't be commenting.
> 
> George J. Dunce xxxxxxxxxx xxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxx 

Childish name-calling noted, troll content deleted.

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