Re: Was. W.W. Scoggins the only witness at 10th and Patton who actually

donald willis <[email protected]> 17 Mar 2021 21:58:41 -0000
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On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 5:48:24 PM UTC-8, John Corbett wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 5:21:39 PM UTC-5, donald willis wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:11:48 AM UTC-8, John Corbett wrote: 
> > > On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:10:33 PM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote: 
> > > > On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-5, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:45:58 PM UTC-8, John Corbett wrote: 
> > > > > > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:18:05 PM UTC-5, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 6:58:20 AM UTC-8, John Corbett wrote: 
> > > > > > > > On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 8:29:23 PM UTC-5, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 6:13:24 PM UTC-8, John Corbett wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:41:28 PM UTC-5, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > The shells were SAID to have been found "some distance away". Don't think 
> > > > > > > > > > > they really were.... 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > They were said to have been found some distance away because the were 
> > > > > > > > > > found some distance away. You have no evidence to the contrary. You just 
> > > > > > > > > > invented this cockamamie story out of thin air. 
> > > > > > > > > The "thin air" of Commission testimony. At least 8 times, Virginia Davis 
> > > > > > > > > testified that they called the cops, THEN saw the man with the gun. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Pure nonsense. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Pure Commission testimony. At least I assume you're saying that V. Davis' 
> > > > > > > insistence that they called the cops first is the "nonsense", pure or not. 
> > > > > > > At least 8 times! 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Mr. BELIN. Now you heard the shots. You heard, you say, the second shot 
> > > > > > > > and then what did you do? 
> > > > > > > > Mrs. DAVIS. We was already up. We ran to the door. 
> > > > > > > > Mr. BELIN. By we, who do you mean? 
> > > > > > > > Mrs. DAVIS. Jeanette and I. 
> > > > > > > > Mr. BELIN. You went to which door? 
> > > > > > > > Mrs. DAVIS. The front door. 
> > > > > > > > Mr. BELIN. That would be the front of the house facing East 10th Street? 
> > > > > > > > Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir. 
> > > > > > > > Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you got to the door? 
> > > > > > > > Mrs. DAVIS. Mrs. Markham was standing at the tree. 
> > > > > > > > Mr. BELIN. If we can picture the street intersection, was she standing 
> > > > > > > > in the middle of the street or on the sidewalk? 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > They went to the door first. They would have no reason to call the cops 
> > > > > > > > until they went to the door and saw and heard Markham screaming. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Talk to Virginia D. re "reason".... 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > I quoted WC testimony to support my contention. It's a shame you can't do 
> > > > > > the same. 
> > > > > You didn't quote the 7 or 8 times that Virginia Davis testified that the 
> > > > > Davises called the cops BEFORE they saw the suspect! I can do that if 
> > > > > you don't believe me.... 
> > > > > 
> > > > Why don't you do that? 
> > > Don? Did you forget again? 
> > Sorry, I used my time answering Hank. Maybe I'll do that tomorrow, first 
> > thing, since apparently you don't believe me. (Note that I had said, "if 
> > you don't believe me".) 
> >
> Forgive me if I don't hold my breathe waiting for that to happen. 
> 
> The fact of the matter is Virginia Davis contradicted herself several 
> times. In parts of her testimony, she said Jeanette called the police 
> after they saw Oswald cut across the lawn and later, she said the police 
> were called before. I've already provided one in which she said she saw 
> Oswald cut across the lawn before they called the police. Here is another: 
> 
> Mrs. DAVIS. See, all the people had already--see, he was already gone. 
> Mr. BELIN. Had he gone by at that time? 
> Mrs. DAVIS. By the time we got back from off the phone, he had already 
> gone. He had already disappeared behind the corner of our house. 
> Mr. BELIN. Did you see him going in front of your house before you called 
> on the phone? 
> Mrs. DAVIS. Yes. When we heard the second shot, we ran to the front door, 
> and that is when we saw the boy cutting across the yard. 
> 
> Elsewhere she says she saw Oswald after they called the police. Clearly 
> she was confused on that point. Both those things cannot be true. So which 
> one is wrong. Common sense alone would tell you she was wrong when she 
> said they saw Oswald after calling the police. She said they saw Oswald 
> cut across the lawn when they ran to the door. What reason would they have 
> for calling the police before they ran to the front door?

Both Virginia & Barbara D. testified that Mrs Markham told them to call 
the cops.


They didn't know 
> a cop had been shot until after they went to the front door.