Re: Glenn V. Fell for Lies About Georgia Voting Law

On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 3:26:21 PM UTC-4, Glenn V. wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 5:03:29 AM UTC+2, Bud wrote:=20
> > On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 3:40:38 PM UTC-4, Glenn V. wrote:=20
> > > On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 2:14:24 AM UTC+2, John McAdams wrote:=
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> > > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/30/biden-falsely-cl=
aims-new-georgia-law-ends-voting-hours-early/=20
> > > >=20
> > > > .John=20
> > > > -------------------------------=20
> > > > http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm=20
> > > The only one who's got suckered into anything is you, John. Read up o=
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> > > exactly what is in that bill in Georgia. Try to understand, for examp=
le,=20
> > > what it means that Raffenspergers office is taken out of the process =
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> > > pay attention to how it will be done in the future.=20
> > Make your arguments, stop alluding to things you don`t show.=20
> > > Btw, what Trump said about Charlottesville was of course directed to =
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> > > same people he declared he "loved", on January 6th. The white=20
> > > supremacists; the Proud Boys and the rest of the insurrectionists at =
the=20
> > > Capitolium. As you well know, some of those he earlier had told to "s=
tand=20
> > > down, stand by". They know exactly how to read Trump - and Trump know=
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> > > exactly how to address them. You should stop playing games about this=
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> > You should stop pretending that these fringe groups represent the core=
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> > of Trump`s support.=20
> > > No GOP representative of Congress has yet answered why 360 bills are =
now=20
> > > being introduced by the GOP around the US,=20
> > I can. Millions of Americans have expressed the idea that they aren`t=
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> > confident that the election was conducted fairly.=20
> >=20
> > https://americasfreedomfighters.com/bombshell-new-poll/=20
> > >after an election where no=20
> > > voter fraud happened anywhere, of any scale whatsoever.=20
> > There has never been a political election in this country of any size=
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> > where there was no voter fraud.=20
> > > No fraud, no=20
> > > irregularities, no matter how many times you repeat those lies.=20
> > The whole election was irregular.=20
> > > Btw, John=20
> > > are you defending the Big Lie? You know, the one that says the electi=
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> > > "was stolen"?=20
> > >=20
> > > You know, the one that separates authoritarians and fascists from tru=
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> > > democrats? Do you, or anyone else here support the Big Lie? The one, =
also,=20
> > > that so many scared GOP members of Congress support? Those scared of=
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> > > Donald Trump - who doesn't give a damn about democracy?=20
> > Good to see you on board with democracy. Since the Georgia Voting Bill=
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> > was the product of democracy you should have no complaints.=20
> > > But there are indeed quite a few ex-GOP conservatives, true defenders=
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> > > democracy, who have spoken out about what is going on in the US.=20
> > >=20
> > > Max Boot, just yesterday:=20
> > Who?=20
> > > "In Georgia, Delta Air Lines issued a statement opposing a package of=
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> > > voting rules that, among other things, imposes new barriers to voting=
 by=20
> > > mail, eliminates mobile voting centers, puts a cap on the number of d=
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> > > boxes and shortens the time to return absentee ballots.=20
> > Has it been shown that any of these things cause undue hardship?=20
> >=20
> > Interesting that the left will soon be trying to implement something=20
> > where you have to show you`ve been vaccinated to do certain things (lik=
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> > get on Delta planes). You will have to show something in order to board=
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> > plane, but they don`t want anyone to have to show something to vote.=20
> > > Republicans=20
> > > retaliated. Now, when businesses oppose those efforts and exercise th=
eir=20
> > > First Amendment rights, which Republicans ordinarily consider=20
> > > =E2=80=9Cfundamental=E2=80=9D and worthy of protection, they seek to =
use=20
> > > the power of the government to punish those whose speech they dislike=
. It=20
> > > seems they do not like the First Amendment any more than the 14th or =
the=20
> > > 15th when it comes to robust access to the ballot for voters they sus=
pect=20
> > > will support their opponents. Their march to bully-boy authoritariani=
sm=20
> > > continues as they prove once again that they are no friends of=20
> > > multiracial, robust democracy."=20
> > Left wing groups tried to pressure Coca-Cola to come out against this=
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> > bill. Apparently the left is no friend to democracy.=20
> > > Yes, those republicans retaliated, for one reason alone. They are all=
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> > > scared sh*t of Donald Trump, these cowards.=20
> > They are scared of the millions of people who support Trump. As well=20
> > they should be.=20
> > > I'm happy to provide these=20
> > > lists of ex-GOP republicans, who have all left since they understand =
what=20
> > > an incredibly dangerous path the GOP has entered, since the day they =
all=20
> > > bowed down to Donald Trumps authoritarian idiocy:=20
> > >=20
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Trump_movement=20
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_Don=
ald_Trump_2016_presidential_campaign=20
> > >=20
> > > Someone summed it up quite brilliant:=20
> > >=20
> > > "Republicans will be anti-corporate in word, pro-billionaire in deed;=
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> > If the Democrats are so anti-billionaire, why are there so many=20
> > billionaires working on their behalf? Why does Big Tech act on behalf o=
f=20
> > the left? Why is the mainstream media nothing but a propaganda arm of t=
he=20
> > Democratic Party?=20
> > > blue-collar on the airwaves, protective of offshore tax shelters in=
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> > > practice; the party of law and order=20
> > How many police unions came out for Biden?=20
> > >- that insists 2020 was stolen."=20
> > >=20
> > > This time US democracy was saved by the Judiciary.=20
> > The Supreme Court refused to hear the case.=20
> > > Now it's time for you,=20
> > > Bud and the rest to make a choice. Either you continue to walk into t=
he=20
> > > future head deep in the past, b*tt first. Or you start defending US=
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> > > democracy.=20
> > All those 360 GOP bills you mentioned are part of the democratic=20
> > process. Why are you so anti-democratic?=20
> > >Not a right/left question. No joke. Not a=20
> > > petty-winning-arguments-in-a-debate thing.=20
> > >=20
> > > It's a question of saving US democracy.=20
> > It was a question of saving America. The question has been answered (fo=
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> > now), America is not to be saved, it is to be reshaped into a leftists=
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> > vision that is doomed to fail.=20
> > >Pretty soon it just might be too=20
> > > late.
> Thanks, Bud.=20
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> Thanks for signing off on what to me was clear long ago. You don't give a=
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> shit about democracy, which really was never that hard to figure out.

Explain how the newly passed Georgia voting laws are a threat to 
democracy. Tell us who they prevent from voting and how. The laws apply 
equally to everybody. They don't favor any ethnic group or income class. 
Everybody has to follow the same rules. Everybody has the same opportunity 
to cast their ballots. If some choose not to make the effort to do so, why 
should anybody care about them?