Re: Glenn V. Fell for Lies About Georgia Voting Law

On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 3:10:55 AM UTC+2, Bud wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 3:26:21 PM UTC-4, Glenn V. wrote:=20
> > On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 5:03:29 AM UTC+2, Bud wrote:=20
> > > On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 3:40:38 PM UTC-4, Glenn V. wrote:=20
> > > > On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 2:14:24 AM UTC+2, John McAdams wrote:=
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> > > > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/30/biden-falsely-=
claims-new-georgia-law-ends-voting-hours-early/=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > .John=20
> > > > > -------------------------------=20
> > > > > http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm=20
> > > > The only one who's got suckered into anything is you, John. Read up=
 on=20
> > > > exactly what is in that bill in Georgia. Try to understand, for exa=
mple,=20
> > > > what it means that Raffenspergers office is taken out of the proces=
s and=20
> > > > pay attention to how it will be done in the future.=20
> > > Make your arguments, stop alluding to things you don`t show.=20
> > > > Btw, what Trump said about Charlottesville was of course directed t=
o the=20
> > > > same people he declared he "loved", on January 6th. The white=20
> > > > supremacists; the Proud Boys and the rest of the insurrectionists a=
t the=20
> > > > Capitolium. As you well know, some of those he earlier had told to =
"stand=20
> > > > down, stand by". They know exactly how to read Trump - and Trump kn=
ows=20
> > > > exactly how to address them. You should stop playing games about th=
is.=20
> > > You should stop pretending that these fringe groups represent the cor=
e=20
> > > of Trump`s support.=20
> > > > No GOP representative of Congress has yet answered why 360 bills ar=
e now=20
> > > > being introduced by the GOP around the US,=20
> > > I can. Millions of Americans have expressed the idea that they aren`t=
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> > > confident that the election was conducted fairly.=20
> > >=20
> > > https://americasfreedomfighters.com/bombshell-new-poll/=20
> > > >after an election where no=20
> > > > voter fraud happened anywhere, of any scale whatsoever.=20
> > > There has never been a political election in this country of any size=
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> > > where there was no voter fraud.=20
> > > > No fraud, no=20
> > > > irregularities, no matter how many times you repeat those lies.=20
> > > The whole election was irregular.=20
> > > > Btw, John=20
> > > > are you defending the Big Lie? You know, the one that says the elec=
tion=20
> > > > "was stolen"?=20
> > > >=20
> > > > You know, the one that separates authoritarians and fascists from t=
rue=20
> > > > democrats? Do you, or anyone else here support the Big Lie? The one=
, also,=20
> > > > that so many scared GOP members of Congress support? Those scared o=
f=20
> > > > Donald Trump - who doesn't give a damn about democracy?=20
> > > Good to see you on board with democracy. Since the Georgia Voting Bil=
l=20
> > > was the product of democracy you should have no complaints.=20
> > > > But there are indeed quite a few ex-GOP conservatives, true defende=
rs of=20
> > > > democracy, who have spoken out about what is going on in the US.=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Max Boot, just yesterday:=20
> > > Who?=20
> > > > "In Georgia, Delta Air Lines issued a statement opposing a package =
of=20
> > > > voting rules that, among other things, imposes new barriers to voti=
ng by=20
> > > > mail, eliminates mobile voting centers, puts a cap on the number of=
 drop=20
> > > > boxes and shortens the time to return absentee ballots.=20
> > > Has it been shown that any of these things cause undue hardship?=20
> > >=20
> > > Interesting that the left will soon be trying to implement something=
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> > > where you have to show you`ve been vaccinated to do certain things (l=
ike=20
> > > get on Delta planes). You will have to show something in order to boa=
rd a=20
> > > plane, but they don`t want anyone to have to show something to vote.=
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> > > > Republicans=20
> > > > retaliated. Now, when businesses oppose those efforts and exercise =
their=20
> > > > First Amendment rights, which Republicans ordinarily consider=20
> > > > =E2=80=9Cfundamental=E2=80=9D and worthy of protection, they seek t=
o use=20
> > > > the power of the government to punish those whose speech they disli=
ke. It=20
> > > > seems they do not like the First Amendment any more than the 14th o=
r the=20
> > > > 15th when it comes to robust access to the ballot for voters they s=
uspect=20
> > > > will support their opponents. Their march to bully-boy authoritaria=
nism=20
> > > > continues as they prove once again that they are no friends of=20
> > > > multiracial, robust democracy."=20
> > > Left wing groups tried to pressure Coca-Cola to come out against this=
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> > > bill. Apparently the left is no friend to democracy.=20
> > > > Yes, those republicans retaliated, for one reason alone. They are a=
ll=20
> > > > scared sh*t of Donald Trump, these cowards.=20
> > > They are scared of the millions of people who support Trump. As well=
=20
> > > they should be.=20
> > > > I'm happy to provide these=20
> > > > lists of ex-GOP republicans, who have all left since they understan=
d what=20
> > > > an incredibly dangerous path the GOP has entered, since the day the=
y all=20
> > > > bowed down to Donald Trumps authoritarian idiocy:=20
> > > >=20
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Trump_movement=20
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_D=
onald_Trump_2016_presidential_campaign=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Someone summed it up quite brilliant:=20
> > > >=20
> > > > "Republicans will be anti-corporate in word, pro-billionaire in dee=
d;=20
> > > If the Democrats are so anti-billionaire, why are there so many=20
> > > billionaires working on their behalf? Why does Big Tech act on behalf=
 of=20
> > > the left? Why is the mainstream media nothing but a propaganda arm of=
 the=20
> > > Democratic Party?=20
> > > > blue-collar on the airwaves, protective of offshore tax shelters in=
=20
> > > > practice; the party of law and order=20
> > > How many police unions came out for Biden?=20
> > > >- that insists 2020 was stolen."=20
> > > >=20
> > > > This time US democracy was saved by the Judiciary.=20
> > > The Supreme Court refused to hear the case.=20
> > > > Now it's time for you,=20
> > > > Bud and the rest to make a choice. Either you continue to walk into=
 the=20
> > > > future head deep in the past, b*tt first. Or you start defending US=
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> > > > democracy.=20
> > > All those 360 GOP bills you mentioned are part of the democratic=20
> > > process. Why are you so anti-democratic?=20
> > > >Not a right/left question. No joke. Not a=20
> > > > petty-winning-arguments-in-a-debate thing.=20
> > > >=20
> > > > It's a question of saving US democracy.=20
> > > It was a question of saving America. The question has been answered (=
for=20
> > > now), America is not to be saved, it is to be reshaped into a leftist=
s=20
> > > vision that is doomed to fail.=20
> > > >Pretty soon it just might be too=20
> > > > late.=20
> > Thanks, Bud.=20
> >=20
> > Thanks for signing off on what to me was clear long ago. You don't give=
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> > a shit about democracy, which really was never that hard to figure out.
> Weren`t you the one fretting about Republicans introducing voting bills?=
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> That`s democracy in action.=20
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> Leftists don`t give a shit about being hypocritical, and that isn`t very=
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> hard to figure out.

You got that too wrong. So let me explain it to you.

Even elected officials can certainly do things that are not democratic. It 
is *not* democratic to suppress voters. It is un-democratic. Democracy 
rests on the premise that voters can vote.

Soon your logics will lead you to protect Hitler, too - who was duly 
democratically elected, remember?

Was this plain enough for you to understand?