Re: Ahmaud Arbery - More details emerge

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 8:26:09 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 5:30:53 PM UTC-4, ajohnstone wrote:=20
> > So your basic belief is that the McMichaels and Bryan have absolutely=
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> > nothing to be answerable for.
> Correct. There was criminal activity in their neighborhood and they=20
> wanted it to stop. They only threat to Arbery`s life is if he did what he=
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> did. He literally forced Travis McMichaels` hand.
> > I suggest you are endorsing "white entitlement" and i further suggest y=
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> > would never endorse such a process if the position was flipped, either =
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> > the crime was white upon white or an African-American vigilante killed =
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> > white man.
> I think the event plays out exactly the same if the prowler was white.=20
> Travis McMichaels calls the cops just like he did on the 11th, And if it=
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> was a white suspect leaving the house, the McMichaels react the same, the=
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> grab their guns, jump in their truck and chase him down. You think Gregor=
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> McMichaels says "Ah, never mind, it`s a white guy, let him go". Not a=20
> chance.=20
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> And if you think I would care if Travis McMichael blew away a white guy=
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> who came at him like this, you don`t know me very well. I can show you=20
> video after video of cops shooting white guys that I wholeheartedly=20
> support. It is the people of the left that insist on making racist=20
> assumptions whenever a white shoots a black.
> > Barnhill made his determination on limited one-sided information.
> What pertinent information didn`t he have? He had the autopsy, witness=20
> statements, the video and knowledge of Georgia law.
> > But you=20
> > maintain he is above reproach and any criticism is politically motivate=
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> I believe politically motivated groups want to dictate outcomes. That is=
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> what you are seeing here, people with the "wrong" kind of thinking are=20
> being replaced with people with the "right" kind of thinking. The Arbery=
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> family is making all the demands, and those demands are being met. That=
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> alone shows the assumption that the McMichaels were in the wrong, and=20
> Arbery is blameless for what occurred. The call for "justice" is merely a=
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> demand of getting the outcome they desire.
> > =E2=80=9CProbable cause was clear to our agents pretty quickly,=E2=80=
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> > Georgia Bureau of Investigation Director Vic Reynolds said.
> They could have called a grand jury. They knew they`d be blown out of=20
> the water.
> > At a request from Attorney General Chris Carr, Georgia Bureau of=20
> > Investigation will proceed with a formal examination into possible=20
> > misconduct by DAs offices involved in Ahmaud Arbery's murder case which=
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> > may have constituted "unprofessional conduct" in addition to "other=20
> > crimes."
> You saw what Barnhill said, look all you like.=20
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> And beside only looking at the DAs, I hope they also look at surrounding=
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> neighborhoods that Arbery might have "jogged" through, see if any crimina=
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> complaints match his description.

  Well, as usual my suspicions turned out to be spot on. New evidence is 
showing a pattern of criminal activity by Arbery (good luck finding this 
information covered by the MSM).

  See the video here, starting around 6:45...

  https://youtu.be/4ZOXKVRL3Sw

 Clearly these are patterns of criminal behavior. You can see the MO of 
criminal activity and you can see that he is known to react violently when 
confronted.

 I`ll make an observation that will make some people unhappy. I`ve know 
criminals my whole life, had many career criminals as friends growing up. 
Whenever you see a criminal, say a car thief, and his record is something 
like a year ago, arrested for stealing cars, 6 months ago same thing, 
three months ago same thing, you can be pretty sure that person has been 
doing the same crime in many of the days in between those arrests, he just 
wasn`t unlucky enough to be caught the few times he committed such a 
crime.

> > You have already made up your mind and reached your judgement.
> Pretty much. I believe I have a pretty good idea about how things=20
> transpired.
> > McMichaels=20
> > own version of what happened is the truth.
> Without the video I`d have no idea. With it, it is easy to see. Arbery=20
> made a foolish and ultimately fatal decision.=20
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> > Bryans is unreliable.=20
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> Bryan is willing to say anything to help himself, and if he thinks=20
> saying something helps him and hurts the McMichaels, he is willing to do=
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> this. He could have said the truth, that the neighborhood was concerned=
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> about all the criminal activity going on, so they were all on the lookout=
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> They should have all stuck together (English too) and said there was a=20
> problem, and the neighborhood was acting in response to the problem. Call=
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> it what it was, law abiding people banding together against those up to n=
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> good.
> > A trial=20
> > by jury is pointless.
> When it is clear no crimes were committed, yes.
> > Arbery was guilty of something, and because he=20
> > didn't submit meekly to the demands of armed strangers, he deserved wha=
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> > he got.
> He got what he got because he attacked Travis McMichaels. He took the=20
> only action that would have gotten that result. If they wanted Arbery dea=
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> they could have just run him down with their truck. The could have shot=
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> him numerous times during the chase. The only thing that was different=20
> when he got shot was he rushed and attacked the person holding the gun.
> > And that is what you describe to be justice.
> You assume an injustice. I don`t. I see it as a event that Arbery could=
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> have avoided. I`d feel the same if Arbery jumped in front of McMichaels=
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> truck and they rolled over him. "There is someone who didn`t hold his lif=
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> dearly enough"