Re: Did the Davises see anyone (other than Mrs. Markham)?

On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 5:38:11 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: 
> > On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 5:31:05 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote: 
> > > On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 6:13:22 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 6:11:28 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote: 
> > > > > On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 3:26:16 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > > On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 8:03:11 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 3:40:29 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > > > > On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:14:15 PM UTC-7, John Corbett wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 3:47:27 PM UTC-4, CUT 
> > > > > > > > > > Try again. You start with a false, or at best half-true, premise: 
> > > > > > > > > > "Oswald dumped the shells in the bushes". Well, one shell, supposedly. 
> > > > > > > > > > Quarter-true. And Benavides says another "by the bush". But the Davises 
> > > > > > > > > > testified that the two shells that THEY found were on the side yard, under 
> > > > > > > > > > a window and near the side walkway. NOT in or near those bushes. And you 
> > > > > > > > > > accuse ME of cherry picking! 
> > > > > > > > > Now you are just nitpicking because you have nothing of substance to 
> > > > > > > > > present. The important thing is that Oswald was seen dumping shells from 
> > > > > > > > > his revolver 
> > > > > > > > Like I said, LNs find it very hard to admit when they're wrong, as Corbett 
> > > > > > > > here was with his Oswald dumped all the shells in the bushes. If he can't 
> > > > > > > > get the details right, it makes you wonder about his Big Picture.... 
> > > > > > > The big picture is the shells being found in that area makes it 
> > > > > > > impossible that an automatic was used to kill Tippit. 
> > > > > > "That area"? What area? 
> > > > > That corner of the house. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > That is why it is easy to determine a revolver and not an automatic was 
> > > > > used. Has an automatic been used the shells would have been found 40-50 
> > > > > feet away towards the front of Tippit`s patrol car. 
> > > > > >We were talking about shells the Davises found 
> > > > > > around the bushes. 
> > > > > Yes, the bushes are at that corner of the house. The bushes Scoggins saw 
> > > > > Oswald come through. 
> > > > > > Or Corbett's 3/4 false "Oswald dumped the shells in the 
> > > > > > bushes". 
> > > > > That vicinity. 
> > > > The side of the house under the window & the grass near the side walkway 
> > > > are NOT in the vicinity of the bushes. 
> > > When Barbara Davis was asked where she saw Oswald emptying the gun, she 
> > > said not quite to the bushes. 
> > That's not quite what she said.
> It is exactly what she said. 
> 
> "Mr. BALL. In other words, there is a cross you make across the line 
> that he took which marks the place where he was emptying the gun. 
> 
> Mrs. DAVIS. Just about halfway there. 
> 
> Mr. BALL. Mark it also on 21, 534. 
> 
> Mrs. DAVIS. Not quite half, not quite to the bushes there." 

Okay, I misread that.  Ball said "emptying".  I was thinking "dropping 
shells on the ground".  Barbara D did not testify that the suspect was 
"dropping" shells in the front yard.


> 
> "...not quite to the bushes there"
> >That was more counsel Ball than Barbara 
> > D.:
> Stop making things up.
> > Ball: "Did you later look in the bushes & find something?? 
> > Davis: "Yes, IN THE GRASS BESIDE THE HOUSE."
> That area is the side of the house.
> > Note that, although she said, Yes, she did not even use the word "bushes".
> She had earlier. 
> 
> The bushes, the window and the grass beside the house are all the same 
> small area in that corner of the house. 

The window below which a shell was found was on the SIDE of the house.

> 
> https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=34 
> 
> It is where she saw Oswald cut across the lawn while removing the spent 
> shells from his handgun. The reason he shells were empty is because the 
> slugs were in Tippit`s body. Perhaps if you spend a few more decades 
> studying this case you might be able to figure out the simple basic facts 
> about what occurred. I`m not optimistic, either in the time span or the 
> capability.
> > Trust more in her "under the window", which window was not near the 
> > bushes.
> She marked which window in the photo. It is the one that overlooks the 
> bushes. 
> 

I don't see that mark.

dcw