Re: Did the Davises see anyone (other than Mrs. Markham)?

donald willis <[email protected]> 12 Apr 2021 20:14:05 -0000
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On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 6:55:46 AM UTC-7, Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zirco=
n) wrote:
> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:=20
> > On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 5:31:05 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:=20
> > > On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 6:13:22 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:=20
> > > > On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 6:11:28 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:=20
> > > > > On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 3:26:16 PM UTC-4, donald willis wr=
ote:=20
> > > > > > On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 8:03:11 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:=20
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 3:40:29 PM UTC-4, donald willis =
wrote:=20
> > > > > > > > On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:14:15 PM UTC-7, John Corbett =
wrote:=20
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 3:47:27 PM UTC-4, CUT=20
> > > > > > > > > > Try again. You start with a false, or at best half-true=
, premise:=20
> > > > > > > > > > "Oswald dumped the shells in the bushes". Well, one she=
ll, supposedly.=20
> > > > > > > > > > Quarter-true. And Benavides says another "by the bush".=
 But the Davises=20
> > > > > > > > > > testified that the two shells that THEY found were on t=
he side yard, under=20
> > > > > > > > > > a window and near the side walkway. NOT in or near thos=
e bushes. And you=20
> > > > > > > > > > accuse ME of cherry picking!=20
> > > > > > > > > Now you are just nitpicking because you have nothing of s=
ubstance to=20
> > > > > > > > > present. The important thing is that Oswald was seen dump=
ing shells from=20
> > > > > > > > > his revolver=20
> > > > > > > > Like I said, LNs find it very hard to admit when they're wr=
ong, as Corbett=20
> > > > > > > > here was with his Oswald dumped all the shells in the bushe=
s. If he can't=20
> > > > > > > > get the details right, it makes you wonder about his Big Pi=
cture....=20
> > > > > > > The big picture is the shells being found in that area makes =
it=20
> > > > > > > impossible that an automatic was used to kill Tippit.=20
> > > > > > "That area"? What area?=20
> > > > > That corner of the house.=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > That is why it is easy to determine a revolver and not an automat=
ic was=20
> > > > > used. Has an automatic been used the shells would have been found=
 40-50=20
> > > > > feet away towards the front of Tippit`s patrol car.=20
> > > > > >We were talking about shells the Davises found=20
> > > > > > around the bushes.=20
> > > > > Yes, the bushes are at that corner of the house. The bushes Scogg=
ins saw=20
> > > > > Oswald come through.=20
> > > > > > Or Corbett's 3/4 false "Oswald dumped the shells in the=20
> > > > > > bushes".=20
> > > > > That vicinity.=20
> > > > The side of the house under the window & the grass near the side wa=
lkway=20
> > > > are NOT in the vicinity of the bushes.=20
> > > When Barbara Davis was asked where she saw Oswald emptying the gun, s=
he=20
> > > said not quite to the bushes.=20
> > That's not quite what she said. That was more counsel Ball than Barbara=
=20
> > D.:=20
> >=20
> > Ball: "Did you later look in the bushes & find something??=20
> > Davis: "Yes, IN THE GRASS BESIDE THE HOUSE."=20
> >=20
> > Note that, although she said, Yes, she did not even use the word "bushe=
s".=20
> > Trust more in her "under the window", which window was not near the=20
> > bushes.=20
> >
> =3D=3D QUOTE =3D=3D=20
> AFFIDAVIT IN ANY FACT=20
> THE STATE OF TEXAS=20
> COUNTY OF DALLAS=20
>=20
> BEFORE ME, Mary Rattan, a Notary Public in and for said County, State of=
=20
> Texas, on this day personally appeared Barbara Jeanette Davis w/f/22, 400=
=20
> E. 10th, WH3 8120. Bus: same who, after being by me duly sworn, on oath=
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> deposes and says:=20
>=20
> Today November 22, 1963 shortly after 1:00 pm, my sister-in-law, Virginia=
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> Davis, and I were lying on the bed with the kids. I heard a shot and=20
> jumped up and heard another shot. I put on my shoes and went to the door=
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> and I saw this man walking across my front yard unloading a gun. A woman=
=20
> was standing across the street screaming that "he shot him, he killed him=
"=20
> and pointed towards a police car. That is the first time I noticed a=20
> police car there. I ran back in the house and called the operator and=20
> reported this to the police. When the police arrived Ishowed [sic] one of=
=20
> them where I saw this man emptying his gun and we found a shell. After th=
e=20
> police had left I went back into the yard and Virginia found another shel=
l=20

I hadn't realized that the only yard Barbara D here mentions is the "front 
yard"-- she seems to be saying that BOTH shells were found in the front 
yard.  The only referent we have for "back into the yard" and "where I saw 
this man emptying his gun" is the "front yard".  Thanks, Hank!  Barbara D 
changed her story re the finding of BOTH shells for her testimony.

dcw