Re: Did the Davises see anyone (other than Mrs. Markham)?

On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 4:14:08 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:
> On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 6:55:46 AM UTC-7, Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon) wrote: 
> > On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: 
> > > On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 5:31:05 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote: 
> > > > On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 6:13:22 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 6:11:28 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote: 
> > > > > > On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 3:26:16 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 8:03:11 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote: 
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 3:40:29 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:14:15 PM UTC-7, John Corbett wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 3:47:27 PM UTC-4, CUT 
> > > > > > > > > > > Try again. You start with a false, or at best half-true, premise: 
> > > > > > > > > > > "Oswald dumped the shells in the bushes". Well, one shell, supposedly. 
> > > > > > > > > > > Quarter-true. And Benavides says another "by the bush". But the Davises 
> > > > > > > > > > > testified that the two shells that THEY found were on the side yard, under 
> > > > > > > > > > > a window and near the side walkway. NOT in or near those bushes. And you 
> > > > > > > > > > > accuse ME of cherry picking! 
> > > > > > > > > > Now you are just nitpicking because you have nothing of substance to 
> > > > > > > > > > present. The important thing is that Oswald was seen dumping shells from 
> > > > > > > > > > his revolver 
> > > > > > > > > Like I said, LNs find it very hard to admit when they're wrong, as Corbett 
> > > > > > > > > here was with his Oswald dumped all the shells in the bushes. If he can't 
> > > > > > > > > get the details right, it makes you wonder about his Big Picture.... 
> > > > > > > > The big picture is the shells being found in that area makes it 
> > > > > > > > impossible that an automatic was used to kill Tippit. 
> > > > > > > "That area"? What area? 
> > > > > > That corner of the house. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That is why it is easy to determine a revolver and not an automatic was 
> > > > > > used. Has an automatic been used the shells would have been found 40-50 
> > > > > > feet away towards the front of Tippit`s patrol car. 
> > > > > > >We were talking about shells the Davises found 
> > > > > > > around the bushes. 
> > > > > > Yes, the bushes are at that corner of the house. The bushes Scoggins saw 
> > > > > > Oswald come through. 
> > > > > > > Or Corbett's 3/4 false "Oswald dumped the shells in the 
> > > > > > > bushes". 
> > > > > > That vicinity. 
> > > > > The side of the house under the window & the grass near the side walkway 
> > > > > are NOT in the vicinity of the bushes. 
> > > > When Barbara Davis was asked where she saw Oswald emptying the gun, she 
> > > > said not quite to the bushes. 
> > > That's not quite what she said. That was more counsel Ball than Barbara 
> > > D.: 
> > > 
> > > Ball: "Did you later look in the bushes & find something?? 
> > > Davis: "Yes, IN THE GRASS BESIDE THE HOUSE." 
> > > 
> > > Note that, although she said, Yes, she did not even use the word "bushes". 
> > > Trust more in her "under the window", which window was not near the 
> > > bushes. 
> > > 
> > == QUOTE == 
> > AFFIDAVIT IN ANY FACT 
> > THE STATE OF TEXAS 
> > COUNTY OF DALLAS 
> > 
> > BEFORE ME, Mary Rattan, a Notary Public in and for said County, State of 
> > Texas, on this day personally appeared Barbara Jeanette Davis w/f/22, 400 
> > E. 10th, WH3 8120. Bus: same who, after being by me duly sworn, on oath 
> > deposes and says: 
> > 
> > Today November 22, 1963 shortly after 1:00 pm, my sister-in-law, Virginia 
> > Davis, and I were lying on the bed with the kids. I heard a shot and 
> > jumped up and heard another shot. I put on my shoes and went to the door 
> > and I saw this man walking across my front yard unloading a gun. A woman 
> > was standing across the street screaming that "he shot him, he killed him" 
> > and pointed towards a police car. That is the first time I noticed a 
> > police car there. I ran back in the house and called the operator and 
> > reported this to the police. When the police arrived Ishowed [sic] one of 
> > them where I saw this man emptying his gun and we found a shell. After the 
> > police had left I went back into the yard and Virginia found another shell
> I hadn't realized that the only yard Barbara D here mentions is the "front 
> yard"-- she seems to be saying that BOTH shells were found in the front 
> yard. 
> The only referent we have for "back into the yard" and "where I saw 
> this man emptying his gun" is the "front yard". Thanks, Hank! Barbara D 
> changed her story re the finding of BOTH shells for her testimony. 
> 

I just have a few questions. Most can be answered with a simply yes or no.

1. Wouldn't that front yard be too far for the shells from an automatic to 
   be ejected?

2. Didn't she say she saw the man "unloading a gun" and then "emptying his 
   gun"?

3. Didn't you claim she was part of the coverup on 11/22/63?

4. Shouldn't she have found the shells much closer to the police car if an 
   automatic was used?

5. Did any known witness you can name (and produce and quote) say an 
   automatic was used?

6. Aren't the only references to an automatic from two hearsay police 
   radio calls?

7. Didn't numerous other witnesses say the gunman was fiddling with his 
   weapon, trying to unload or reload it?

8. Aren't the shells in evidence from a revolver, not an automatic?

9. Wasn't Oswald arrested in the theatre after slugging a cop and 
   attempting to pull his revolver on that cop?

10. Aren't the shells in evidence traceable to Oswald's revolver to the 
    exclusion of all other weapons in the world?

11. Wasn't Oswald arrested with the same two brands of bullets as the 
    found shells?

12. Didn't Oswald's revolver contain the same two brands of bullets as the 
    found shell?

13. Didn't numerous witnesses identify Oswald as the gunman in police 
    lineups that evening and the next day?

14. Wouldn't that much evidence be enough to convict anyone who wasn't 
    named Oswald?

15. Isn't it evident by now you don't have a case for Oswald's innocence?

Hank