Re: Why the electoral college is manifestly and obviously wrong and unjust

On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 01:48:33 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Ted <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]: 
>
>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 18:57:41 -0400, Attila <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 14:47:34 -0400, Ted
>>><[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 07:12:10 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 8/9/2026 7:07 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> Skeeter <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are 15 low population red shithole states with a combined
>>>>>>> population of a little over 39 million, roughly matching
>>>>>>> California's 39 million. They are Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas,
>>>>>>> Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana,
>>>>>>> Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia, and
>>>>>>> Wyoming. These states have 48 representatives to the House, and
>>>>>>> 30 senators, giving them 78 total electoral votes. California has
>>>>>>> 54 electoral votes, for its 52 representatives and two senators.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why should the voters in these 15 red shithole states have more
>>>>>>> say – not just more say, but almost 50% more – in electing the
>>>>>>> president than the equal number of voters in California? In what
>>>>>>> possible universe is that a just outcome? It is not a just
>>>>>>> outcome in ANY universe at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, if we elected the president on a popular vote, those 15
>>>>>>> red shithole states would still provide more votes for the
>>>>>>> Republiscum/QAnon candidate than California does for the
>>>>>>> Democratic (not "Democrat") candidate. Harris won California with
>>>>>>> about 58.5% of the vote. Trump won the majority of those 15 red
>>>>>>> shithole states with more than 60%; more than 70% in Wyoming and
>>>>>>> West Virginia. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     Actually I agree with Trump,
>>>>>> the EC is a vestige of slavery
>>>>>> and needs to be abolished.
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course it's a vestige of slavery. Paul Finkelman showed that
>>>>>conclusively. "The Proslavery Origins of the Electoral College"
>>>>>https://larc.cardozo.yu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2804&context=
>>>>>clr 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Exactly.
>>>
>>>It insures the country is not run by the population centers.
>> 
>
>
>   Instead it is run by billionaires and
>the lobbyists they pay. When was the public
>allowed to vote on a Trump International
>Airport or Alligator Alcatraz or the Golden
>Ballroom?
>

Never.  We have a representative democracy and not a pure
democracy.

BTW, Alligator Alcatraz is a state institution and no one
outside of Florida has any power over it unless the state
gives them temporary powers.

The same is true for the  Trump International Airport. State
property.

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