Re: Subaru +? Toyota, rumors about turbo ressistance

On 8/1/2020 10:04 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> gamo <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> There are rumors that Mercedes + a big firm in turbochargers,
>> make an addition of an electrical motor that reduces or eliminate
>> the lag in the power supply.
>>
>> There are rumors, too, that new motors around 2.4 liters with
>> turbo could serve to a line of Subaru cars, including BRZ + GT86,
>> offering you a power around 270-280 horsepower.
>>
>> That's it, better motors with around the same or minor emmisions.
>>
>> Was not predictable that petrol industry + gas services +
>> mechanical services + autodealers + car industry + satisfied
>> consumers hit back to the regulators of electric future???
> 
> Not sure where you were going or asking.
> 
>  From your Subject, there is no question about Subaru + Toyota.  That
> already happened back in February 2020.  Toyota raised its stake in
> Subaru.  Toyota does not own Subaru.  See:
> 
> https://www.torquenews.com/1084/subaru-officially-joins-toyota-group-what-it-means-new-outback-and-forester-models
> https://www.carscoops.com/2020/02/subaru-and-toyota-officially-affiliated-after-latter-increases-stake-in-partner/
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/toyota-raises-stake-subaru-20-050033461.html
> 
> The article mentions Subaru moving to [hybrid] electric vehicles, but
> those aren't in my foreseeable future.  I'm in an old house that would
> require rewiring to 200A service to support charging a car.  Even if
> that happens, I'd only look at hybrids because I do take my Subies
> offroad, and there aren't plug-in stations in the forests.  What buyers
> seem to neglect is that, yeah, they safe on fuel costs but the huge and
> very expensive batteries need to get replaced every 5 years, so add
> battery replacement ($3000 to $8000) to the Cost of Ownership for an
> electric vehicle.  Pretty much eliminates the savings of going electric.
> 
> I didn't address your mention of Mercedes and some vague reference to a
> turbocharger manufacturer since those are off-topic here.  Same for your
> rumors.
> 
> Can't address your last paragraph since it rambled with no point.  A
> condensed version is "Was not predictable hit back to the regulators of
> electric future?"  Who are these regulators of "electric future"?  How
> would they get impacted from increased sales of electric vehicles?  By
> getting busy in regulating the efficiency, pricing, and recycling of the
> batteries?
> 

Consumer reports reviewed the Crosstrek hybrid a while back and said the 
extra couple of mpg's was not worth the extra cost of the vehicle.  I'm 
getting 30 mpg off my Crosstrek, mostly local trips, and with what 
little driving I do a hybrid or electric car are not in my future either.

Scotty Kilmer makes a lot of comments on hybrids and advises against 
buying a used one because of battery cost plus extra costs of repairs.

He also does not like turbocharging as it wears out a small engine 
faster.  He also mentioned that if transmission is not built up to take 
the turbocharged engine it can wear out faster.