Re: Gun Control means Crime Control
BeamMeUpScotty <[email protected]>
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On 12/7/22 2:45 AM, Jay Santos wrote: > On 12/6/2022 6:36 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote: >> Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote in >> news:[email protected]: >> >>> Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> wrote >>> in news:[email protected]: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A well regulated Militia, >>> >>> >>> what does "regulated" mean to you? >>> >> >> Well, "Klaus"? >>> >>> >>>> being necessary to the security of a free >>> >>> Nothing about personal self defense >>> >> >> Well, "Klaus"? >> >> >>> >>>> State, the right of the people >>> >>> >>> What people? Women? Children? >>> Freed felons? People with criminal >>> convictions? >>> >> >> Well, "Klaus"? >> >>> >>>> to keep and bear Arms, >>> >>> >>> What arms? Stinger missles >>> Grenade launchers? RPG's? >>> >> >> Well, "Klaus"? >>> >>> >>>> "shall not be >>>> infringed. >>> >>> What is an "infringemnt"? >> >> >> Well, "Klaus"? > > This last one is pretty simple. An infringement is if you can't get > arms. If you can get arms, but > > * there's a slight delay > * you have to submit to a background check > * there is some other administrative overhead > * you can't get just whatever arms you wish > * you can't brandish or "bear" the arms in whatever manner you wish > > then there has been no infringement. > > This is settled. > It means the arms that are arms are all available to you because the U.S. government, and State government has no delegated power and is denied the power to make laws to regulate this RIGHT, due to their having ZERO constitutional powers to make laws that regulate or ban the RIGHT of the people to keep and bear arms. And that's just the limitation on the GOVERNMENT for that RIGHT/POWER. There is also a possibility of some other delegated power that could be applied should the government want to make a law that would suppress those rights or infringe on them. Which is why the 2nd Amendment also says "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" so not only doesn't the government have the delegated or inherent States power to make laws about the RIGHT to KEEP and BEAR but also nothing about the "ARMS" themselves that the people are going to keep and bear, but "shall not be infringed, stops the attempt to use other delegated powers that have been delegated for other uses from being used to infringe on *the RIGHT of the people* . *Amendment II* A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, *shall not be* *infringed* . *the right of the people to keep and bear Arms* denies the delegated power and *shall not be infringed* denies any attempt by anyone to claim that they can limit or regulate that RIGHT, through a back door Clause or Amendment... that allows powers for other things, but if applied to the RIGHT to keep and bear arms... they would be infringing on that RIGHT of the people. NO laws to ban you from keeping nd bearing arms because you didn't pay the tax stamp to own one... or because you're a female... or you live on the wrong side of the tracks. Or you didn't donate to the Democrat candidates. -- -Reality Matters-