Re: Thirteen Years Ago Today, Al Gore Predicted The North PoleWouldBe"Completely Ice Free Within The Next Five Years"

On 12/14/22 11:38 PM, Lee wrote:
> Yak wrote:
> 
>> On 12/14/22 12:17 PM, Lee wrote:
>>> Yak wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/13/22 10:59 PM, Lee wrote:
>>>>> Yak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/13/22 3:48 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2022-12-13 12:38, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:33:23 -0800,  Alan says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> '?Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent
>>>>>>>>> chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some
>>>>>>>>> of the summer months, could be completely ice-free
>>>>>>>>> within the next five to seven years,? Gore claimed.'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Models.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is absolutely NO proof that ANYONE has EVER fudged
>>>>>>>> data going  into a "model."   ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not a refutation to Al Gore's assertions, so buh-bye.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Except he didn't say what your article's headline claims he
>>>>>>> said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Period.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So buh-bye, PusseyCat!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He said it in reference to a study which, being the asshole
>>>>>> that he is, he completely misrepresented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's one I really like though, from “An Inconvenient
>>>>>> Truth,” Gore said studies suggested “in the next 50 to 70
>>>>>> years in summertime [the Arctic ice cap] will be completely
>>>>>> gone.”
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As Arctic Sea Ice Melts, Deputy CNO Says
>>>>> U.S. Subs Will Become More Important
>>>>> November 17, 2020
>>>>> https://seapowermagazine.org/as-arctic-sea-ice-melts-deputy-cno-
>>>>> says -u-s -subs-will-become-more-important/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> IMPLICATIONS OF A MELTING ARCTIC
>>>>> JULY 14, 2022
>>>>> https://www.defensepriorities.org/explainers/implications-of-a-m
>>>>> elti ng-a rctic
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> US Military Responds To Arctic Ocean Melting
>>>>> January 13 2014
>>>>> http://www.ibtimes.com/us-military-responds-arctic-ocean-melting
>>>>> -pol ar-i ce-melting-prompts-us-military-protect-new-1536942
>>>>
>>>> “The world has been chilling sharply for about 20 years,”
>>>> ecologist Kenneth Watt said in 1970.
>>>
>>>
>>>      wow.
>>>
>>>      You are disputing CURRENT climatology
>>> from the Pentagon with stuff that is FIFTY
>>> YEARS OLD?
>>
>> No. I'm calling into question the validity of climate predictions, a
>> long list of which havRe not come true, even though they were based on
>> CURRENT climatology.
> 
>       
>      Oh my goodness, a decades old prediction
> didn't come true.
> 
>      Remember the Domino Theory, that Thailand
> would go commie if we lost in Vietnam? Remember
> "trickle down" economics" that conservatives
> STILL believe? Remember the "Imminent Threat
>  From Saddam's WMD's" that YOU believed?

Remember we quit wasting time and money those failed hypotheses, we also 
quit electing idiots that were selling those FAKE NARRATIVES.

The FACT that the promise of disaster didn't materialize, means that 
there was some other reason for them LYING to us.  Was it ignorance or 
were they trying to make money and secure more power for themselves?



> It appears you think that CURRENT climatology
>> all but guarantees the next round of doom and gloom predictions will
>> come true. My guess is they said the same thing 50 years ago and we
>> see how that went. I guess we'll find out in 50 years whether or not
>> CURRENT climatology was correct. We know 50 years ago it wasn't.   >
>> How desperate.
>>
>> Desperate is clinging to sky-is-falling predictions as a certainty
>> when past performance of them has been miserable at best. You're so
>> sucked into the climate cultism that you don't dare challenge it.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “If present trends continue,
>>>> the world will be about 4 degrees colder for the global mean
>>>> temperature in 1990 but 11 degrees colder in the year 2000. This
>>>> is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
>>>>
>>>> Verdict: FAIL
>>>>
>>>> 1989, Noel Brown, environmentalist apparatchik at the U.N. said
>>>> that “entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth
>>>> by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the
>>>> year 2000.  Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an
>>>> exodus of ‘eco-refugees,’ threatening political chaos, said
>>>> Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment
>>>> Program.”
>>>>
>>>> Verdict: FAIL
>>>>
>>>> 2009, former U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown predicted that if
>>>> they didn’t solve the “impasse” they found themselves in
>>>> within 50 days, the world was pretty much doomed.
>>>>
>>>> During the negotiations for the Copenhagen agreement in 2009,
>>>> former U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown predicted that if they
>>>> didn’t solve the “impasse” they found themselves in within
>>>> 50 days, the world was pretty much doomed.
>>>>
>>>> “If we do not reach a deal at this time, let us be in no doubt:
>>>> once the damage from unchecked emissions growth is done, no
>>>> retrospective global agreement, in some future period, can undo
>>>> that choice,” Brown said. “So we should never allow ourselves
>>>> to lose sight of the catastrophe we face if present warming trends
>>>> continue.”
>>>>
>>>> Verdict: FAIL
>>>>
>>>> https://www.westernjournal.com/10-failed-global-warming-prediction
>>>> s/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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