Re: "Why the 3/5ths Compromise Was Anti-Slavery" [it wasn't – it was pro-slavery]

On 12/26/22 11:39 AM, Scott Kelly, ESQ wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 10:49:31 AM UTC-4, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 6/21/2022 4:39 AM, demonstrating his own futility once again, the geriatric
>> no-testosterone imbecile came back with still more stupidity and futility:
>>
>>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:11:01 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/20/2020 1:12 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> On 7/20/20 2:57 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/20/2020 12:54 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No.  The 3/5 compromise was *not* anti-slavery.  Your subject line is a lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It gave the slavers something they didn't deserve.  It was pro-slavery.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you rather that the slaves had been counted for representation, the slave
>>>>> states been given the additional power?
>>>>
>>>> Because the slaves were considered nothing but property by the future traitors,
>>>> they shouldn't have been counted for *any* amount of representation. The future
>>>> traitors didn't get any representation for their mules or barns or plows, either.
>>>>
>>>> The 3/5 "compromise" was not anti-slavery — it was pro-slavery.
>>>
>>> It was neither. Basically it was a way to increase the
>>> representation of Southern States in the government.
>>
>> Based on their slave populations. It rewarded racist shitbags for being slaver
>> owners. It was pro-slavery. This is not in rational dispute.
> 
> The 3/5's Compromise was anti-slavery and only an idiot would think otherwise.  The slave states wanted the slaves to be counted as an entire person for representation in the U.S. Senate and Congress (just like liberals want all of the illegals streaming over the border to be counted in the census today---it is the SAME argument).  The compromise was that would be not be counted as a single vote (which would have been enormously pro-slavery) but as 3/5'ths of a vote.  This was an anti-slavery bill that signaled that slavery was doomed in the USA.  The USA slavery for a mere 85 years, less if you count the end date as being the date of the Emancipation Proclamation. The USA did a wonderful job in ending an institution in the nascent country even though the institution had been around since the beginning of time and was world wide (and continues to this day).  There are a lot of people on this thread who hate this country and want to tear it down.  And the USA has been torn down, make no mistake.  The USA is a dying nation for one of the major reasons that Rome collapsed---open borders.  The difference is that Rome allowed her borders to be open due to incompetence and corruption and Biden has opened our borders on purpose---its treason.  But to hell with it, the deal is done.  The liberal trash of this thread and this country succeeded in destroying this nation but what they get afterwards will be a giant San Francisco and they deserve it.
> 
Knowing that Slavery is a bad idea, I say that 3/5 clause means that 
they count as a person rather than NOT being a person at all.... it's 
something we should probable NOT try to ignore or erase or suggest that 
the 13th or 14th Amendment has eradicated. There are still slaves. 
They're just overlooked most of the time.

The reason being that if a human life is 3/5 human life or 3/5 of a 
"person" then their States are only eligible for 3/5's of their RIGHTS 
to taxes and representation in the census and Representation.

The IRONY being the 13th Amendment made *people who are duly convicted* 
*of their crime and sentenced to slavery* as part or all of their 
punishment... they are the only people that the 3/5ths Constitutional 
clause would still refer to. But anyone sitting in prison is a slave 
with no RIGHTS to vote or carry a gun.

Which means that all those in prisons are now less than one whole person 
as far as representation goes. And those States get less tax and less 
congressional representation based on their census "minus the prisoner 
population". Because the prison population is only worth 3/5 of that 
population number when it comes to representation or taxes disbursed on 
population statistics. And illegal aliens are NOT population or slaves 
they are just NOT here, they're visiting .

It's a disincentive to locking people up in prisons... isn't it? It 
means the States will have to balance their laws putting people in 
prison with their lost congressional seats, locking up bad people 
becomes a loss of power but then out of control crime would also cause a 
loss to the political party in power when things degenerate into chaos.

The States will let all the people they can, out of prison every 9 years 
for the census to count them as free persons and see if they stay out or 
if they will commit new crimes and get put back in prison for 9 more 
years or life if they're returned to prison again for a serious enough 
crime.


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