Re: School stories
Bobbie Sellers <[email protected]> Sat, 4 Apr 2026 13:19:19 -0700
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On 4/4/26 10:56, Janet wrote: > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] > says... >> >> Janet <[email protected]> posted: >> >>> In article <[email protected]>, >>> [email protected] says... >>>> >>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The Silver >>>>>> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a >>>>>> libertarian school. >>>>> >>>>> Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. >>>>> In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element. >>>> >>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual >>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. >>> >>> >>> I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was referring >>> to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >>> different British custom fagging >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging >>> >> I agree. The British term for hazing was ragging. It didn't happen at Oxford >> in my time (1961?1967), not at Wadham, anyway; at least, I never heard that >> it did. My sister never reported anything of that sort at St. Andrews. However, >> it did occur in some other universities. = > > We had Rag Week, nothing to do with US hazing. > > Kipling was writing abour English Public schools; not universities. And remember what you call a Public School in the UK we call a Private School in the USA and I even went to a Private but Parochial HS. Principal form of Hazing was playing dodgeball on handball courts. I am not athletic so escaped this nonsense by simple refusal. bliss > > Janet > >