Re: School stories

Bobbie Sellers <[email protected]> Sat, 4 Apr 2026 13:19:19 -0700
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On 4/4/26 10:56, Janet wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>>
>> Janet <[email protected]> posted:
>>
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The Silver
>>>>>> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a
>>>>>> libertarian school.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones.
>>>>> In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element.
>>>>
>>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual
>>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely
>>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>     I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing,  or was referring
>>> to that American activity.  He was probably talking about  the
>>> different British custom fagging
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging
>>>
>> I agree. The British term for hazing was ragging. It didn't happen at Oxford
>> in my time (1961?1967), not at Wadham, anyway; at least, I never heard that
>> it did. My sister never reported anything of that sort at St. Andrews. However,
>> it did occur in some other universities. =
> 
> We had Rag Week, nothing to do with   US  hazing.
> 
>   Kipling was writing abour English Public schools; not universities.

	And remember what you call a Public School in the UK we call a
Private School in the USA and I even went to a Private but Parochial
HS.  Principal form of Hazing was playing dodgeball on handball
courts.  I am not athletic so escaped this nonsense by simple refusal.

	bliss
> 
>   Janet
> 
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