Re: School stories
Bobbie Sellers <[email protected]> Mon, 6 Apr 2026 21:01:27 -0700
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On 4/6/26 20:44, Steve Hayes wrote: > On Mon, 6 Apr 2026 07:45:57 -0700, John Ames <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 13:28:36 -0700 >> Bobbie Sellers <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Generally hazing is done to test the Mettle of the new parties and >>> group hazing build bonds between those who share misery. [...] In >>> some of the USA's great universities like Yale and Harvard it builds >>> bonds that are sustained for life >> >> That's certainly the public line whenever a pledge gets killed in a >> dumb stunt and the traditionalists have to scramble to explain to the >> cops and the media how this is Fine, Actually. Sounds a lot more high- >> minded than "institutionalized abuse of newbies is the means by which >> sociopaths who get off on tormenting people find a socially-acceptable >> outlet for their disease." >> >> It's no friggin' wonder these people end up in politics and Management. > > From a US dictionary: > > > > haze > 3 of 3 > verb (2) > hazed; hazing > > transitive verb > 1 > a > : to harass by exacting unnecessary or disagreeable work > b > : to harass by banter, ridicule, or criticism > 2 > : to play tricks on or force to do unpleasant or unsafe things as initiation > haze the fraternity pledges > 3 > Western US : to drive (animals, such as cattle or horses) from > horseback > hazer noun > > From Wikipedia: > > Ragging > Ragging is the term used for the so-called "initiation ritual" > practiced in higher education institutions in India, Pakistan, > Bangladesh, Nepal, and Sri Lanka. The practice is similar to hazing in > North America, fagging in the UK, bizutage in France, praxe in > Portugal, and other similar practices in educational institutions > across the world. Ragging involves abuse, humiliation, or harassment > of new entrants or junior students by the senior students Continued in > Wikipedia > > I understood "ragging" to be a synonym for "teasing" generally, and > not as specifically applied to initiation rituals. > I do not think you would be wrong but that is where a lot of it is found in schools following traditions passed down within 'in groups'. bliss