Re: what is economics for anyways????????

On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 13:03:40 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 7/30/2026 12:45 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 11:52:01 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 7/30/2026 11:22 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 10:14:08 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/29/2026 6:12 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2026 18:04:09 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/29/2026 5:33 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2026 17:16:24 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/28/2026 5:26 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> heck the only reason we see any innovation in the private sector at all
>>>>>>>>>> is the fact that capitalist ideologues continually push all production
>>>>>>>>>> to the private sector to they can profit off after the foundation
>>>>>>>>>> research is completely by the academic/public sector, because
>>>>>>>>>> foundational research is _far_ too risks for profit huffing morons
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> we bearly even _allow_ the public sector to compete in production, so
>>>>>>>>>> who knows what kind of innovation we're leaving on the table cause
>>>>>>>>>> profit huffing morons control all the consumer production
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The public sector has an awful record of efficiency. Public grocery
>>>>>>>>> stores for example, and that's gotta be one of the simplest things in
>>>>>>>>> the world to run.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, I'm not convinced that business interests have permitted any
>>>>>>>> such experiment.  Their lobbyists would be blowing the doors down of
>>>>>>>> any legislature that thought a little about any such thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s five city-owned grocery stores will provide a 30
>>>>>>> percent discount on produce, meat, bread and milk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/27/nyregion/mamdani-grocery-stores-discount.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The history of that sort of thing isn't stellar:
>>>>>>> https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMi1jb3B5_367f580e-7c8f-4fa3-961a-ee7efc5d36d6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course you can find a source that will accuse that.  I suspect the
>>>>>> verdict is not in on those stores yet.  Remembering that their purpose
>>>>>> is not to turn a profit, so they probably will not, and much will
>>>>>> depend on the willingness of govt to continue funding the experiment
>>>>>> as helpful as it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It turns out that helpful or not is not the criteria we apply to
>>>>>> social projects.  It is always cost.  And has the cost become a
>>>>>> political liability in the minds of powerful people?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Helpful"? Compared to what?
>>>>
>>>> compared to do nothing, do nothing, do nothing, deny, deny deny.
>>>
>>> Compared to do anything, anything at all, we need change no matter the
>>> cost, no matter the result.
>> 
>> The definition of conservative:  fear of change
>> The definition of liberal:  willingness to try new things with the
>> hope that things might somehow, someway, someday get better.
>
>The definition of a progressive: Change now, any change, no matter the 
>cost, no matter the result!

That is not the truth that shrinks tell us about the matter.
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