Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On 8/1/2026 7:22 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 19:35:35 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/31/2026 3:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 7/31/26 3:54 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>> Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 13:46:39 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 12:10 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 2:25:03?PM EDT, "Julian" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 31/07/2026 19:06, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32?PM EDT, "Wilson"
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told you so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for centuries. Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. We have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness of our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forests. But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries), it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long term
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively grow and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires yet
>>>>>>>>>>>> we've had
>>>>>>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few weeks
>>>>>>>>>>>> ago it
>>>>>>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what was
>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise a
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions-exposed-
>>>>>>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it really
>>>>>>>>>>>> looked like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's best.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and think
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> one answer
>>>>>>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and strictly
>>>>>>>>>>> enforced laws
>>>>>>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through laziness
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance,
>>>>>>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and building fire
>>>>>>>>>>> resistent
>>>>>>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That would probably be more effective than increasing the price
>>>>>>>>>> of petrol, gas and electricity for already stretched workers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yah. And somebody should point out to the 'tree huggers' that
>>>>>>>>> controlled
>>>>>>>>> burning actually saves more trees than not doing it because left to
>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>> wildfires will continue to happen. And trees will burn even more so
>>>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>>>> the weather changes and encroachment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> given that u actually live in canada maybe u should spend half a
>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>> researching what it takes to do effective fuel management for the
>>>>>>>> forests ur actually talking about
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> god boomers are so stupid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That should wrap up the discussion about the unspoken truth about
>>>>>>> wildfires. Good work, Nick! You really trashed Tara's theory by
>>>>>>> suggesting that, since she lives in the Canadian forest, she should
>>>>>>> research it using Grok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Research nothing using grok.  Canada has forest managers, and you can
>>>>>> bet that they do what they can.  The certainly don't need us telling
>>>>>> them how to do their job.
>>>>>>
>>>>> That being said, no analysis of Canadian forest management can compare
>>>>> to the great analysis by Nick, who is now an expert in just about
>>>>> everything, especially fire science and wildfire prevention.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> lol. Good one
>>>>
>>>
>>> if dud had an actual critique on the argument he wouldn't be have to
>>> engaging in a _bear_ origin fallacy
>>>
>> You came here to learn fire science and forest management?
> 
> You came here to talk shit?
 >
Nick came here to talk shit, not to get enlightened, but he got trashed 
on Usenet for pretending to be a Canadian fire prevention scientist, 
when everyone knows Nick lives in a dessert with a few Palm Trees.

So, that should be a wrap.