Re: Misanthropic Altruism (Philosophy)
Noah Sombrero <[email protected]> Sat, 01 Aug 2026 12:46:01 -0400
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On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 09:37:27 -0700, dart200 <[email protected]> wrote: >On 8/1/26 9:01 AM, Wilson wrote: >> >> "Your daughterÂs smile is dearer to you than that of a stranger half a >> world away. Of course it is. Human life is situated and embodied, and so >> are our obligations and loves. But the ideology that holds sway over >> many Silicon Valley elites diagnoses this preference for those near and >> dear to you as an evolutionary defect. Instead, according to the >> adherents of this worldview, every sentient being in every place, in >> every time, holds the same moral claim on every other. This philosophy >> is known as Effective Altruism (EA). >> >> Scandals in the EA world, most notably the downfall of the >> cryptocurrency entrepreneur Sam Bankman-Fried, prompted many effective >> altruists to renounce the name in recent years. But the ideas endure. In >> 2025, six EA-aligned grantmakers deployed $1.25 billion, and this number >> is set to grow along with the success of the worldÂs leading artificial >> intelligence company, Anthropic, which was founded on EA principles. The >> firmÂs founders have pledged to donate 80 percent of their wealth upon >> the firmÂs IPO. These wealth pledges, combined with the company policy >> of matching employee donations, will create billions in philanthropic >> capital, channeled through EAÂs entrenched institutions. >> >> Effective Altruism is the final flowering of utilitarianism, that >> Victorian philosophy of calculating reformers, transplanted into Silicon >> Valley boardrooms and granted the false vitality of billion-dollar >> balance sheets. Because it is constitutively blind to what makes a >> civilization worth preserving, its utopia will entail dissolving America >> in the name of humanity. >> >> Several historical developments help explain EAÂs success. One is the >> rise of mass media, which widened the circle of concern that once might >> have encompassed only family and neighbors. By the beginning of the >> 1970s, televisions were present in nearly every American home. Footage >> of people suffering abroad became a regular fact of American life. In >> 1972, the philosopher Peter Singer published "Famine, Affluence, and >> Morality," the essay that would become EAÂs foundation. His argument was >> simple: If we can prevent suffering at little cost to ourselves, we >> must, and it makes no moral difference whether the person we help is "a >> neighborÂs child ten yards from me" or a stranger on another continent. >> Another precondition for EAÂs rise was the modern pathologization of >> traditional sources of identity  nation, religion, family, tradition. >> Especially after World War II, such particular loyalties were recast as >> the wellspring of fascism. Later generations, whose education >> dispossessed them of everything particular, were prepared to receive the >> EA program. >> >> In his 1981 book After Virtue, Alasdair MacIntyre argued that every >> culture is defined by its stock of "characters," the social roles that >> embody its moral ideals. "Characters," he wrote, "are the masks worn by >> moral philosophies." The twentieth centuryÂs main character was the >> bureaucrat, whose authority was derived from a seemingly scientific >> knowledge of human affairs, grounded in the supposed incommensurability >> of facts and values. The bureaucrat administers according to facts, >> while values are condemned to the private sphere. His expertise cannot >> be challenged. The standard of his authority is effectiveness. >> He flattens all goods into a single quantifiable dimension, converting >> them into units like lives saved, suffering averted, and dollars per >> outcome. The units apparent neutrality conceals a range of ideological >> assumptions. The human "good" becomes a function of EAÂs calculus. Then, >> pretending value-neutrality, EA denounces defection as backwards, >> unscientific, and immoral. Any challenge appears to spurn both science >> and human dignity. >> >> More recently, EAÂs impartiality has expanded far beyond those currently >> living, to what "longtermists" envision as 10^58+ potential future >> beings  human and digital. These future beings existence depends on >> the avoidance of human extinction. The longtermists consider AI the >> dominant existential risk, and frontier development is concentrated in a >> few American labs. >> >> Some have taken the argument to its violent conclusion. Eliezer >> Yudkowsky, the most influential of the doomsayers, wrote in Time that >> nations should "be willing to destroy a rogue datacenter by airstrike," >> nuclear war notwithstanding. And since 2022, the Zizians, a cult that >> splintered off from the same Bay Area rationalist scene, have been >> linked to six killings. >> >> Congress must treat the philanthropic apparatus of frontier AI as it >> treats any concentration of unaccountable power. Lawmakers should demand >> disclosure of the grantmaking networks that fund labs with national >> security implications. They should condition federal contracts on terms >> any defense contractor would recognize: Disclose the instructions and >> value systems trained into the models, certify systems sold to the >> government will execute lawful orders without an engineerÂs veto, and >> reserve the governmentÂs right to audit. >> >> The machines our government buys must serve the American people, not >> some present or future humanity. And procurement standards should favor >> open-weight models, which anyone can download, run, and test, so that >> the nation never depends on intelligence a handful of labs can withhold. >> ÂWilliam Thibeau >> >> https://www.compactmag.com/article/misanthropic-altruism/ >> >> The philosophical and ethical question is, is it beneficial to value >> those close to us more highly than others, > >no > >> or is it better to value all human life equally? > >yes > >> >> Is it even /possible/ to value all lives equally? > >yes > >> >> Does attempting to see all life as equal inevitably lead to placing a >> lower value on the lives of those close to us (both temporally and >> physically)? > >no > >> >> What about the lives of those who oppose the idea of seeing all life as >> morally equal? > > > subethical beliefs self-resolve in fate So it seems. Somewhere in the depths of the human psyche is the potential to do better than that. Maybe. > > #god -- Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain Don't get political with me young man or I'll tie you to a railroad track and <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>> Who dares to talk to El Sombrero? dares: Ned does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away