Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On 7/31/2026 8:25 PM, dart200 wrote:
> On 7/31/26 7:35 PM, Dude wrote:
>> On 7/31/2026 3:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 7/31/26 3:54 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>> Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 13:46:39 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 12:10 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 2:25:03?PM EDT, "Julian" 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 31/07/2026 19:06, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32?PM EDT, "Wilson"
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fire risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for centuries. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. We have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness of our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forests. But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries), it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long term 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grow and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires yet 
>>>>>>>>>>>> we've had
>>>>>>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few weeks 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ago it
>>>>>>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what was 
>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise a
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions-exposed-
>>>>>>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it really
>>>>>>>>>>>> looked like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's best.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and 
>>>>>>>>>>> think that
>>>>>>>>>>> one answer
>>>>>>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and strictly
>>>>>>>>>>> enforced laws
>>>>>>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through 
>>>>>>>>>>> laziness and
>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance,
>>>>>>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and building fire
>>>>>>>>>>> resistent
>>>>>>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That would probably be more effective than increasing the price
>>>>>>>>>> of petrol, gas and electricity for already stretched workers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yah. And somebody should point out to the 'tree huggers' that 
>>>>>>>>> controlled
>>>>>>>>> burning actually saves more trees than not doing it because 
>>>>>>>>> left to
>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>> wildfires will continue to happen. And trees will burn even 
>>>>>>>>> more so
>>>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>>>> the weather changes and encroachment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> given that u actually live in canada maybe u should spend half a 
>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>> researching what it takes to do effective fuel management for the
>>>>>>>> forests ur actually talking about
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> god boomers are so stupid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That should wrap up the discussion about the unspoken truth about
>>>>>>> wildfires. Good work, Nick! You really trashed Tara's theory by
>>>>>>> suggesting that, since she lives in the Canadian forest, she should
>>>>>>> research it using Grok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Research nothing using grok.  Canada has forest managers, and you can
>>>>>> bet that they do what they can.  The certainly don't need us telling
>>>>>> them how to do their job.
>>>>>>
>>>>> That being said, no analysis of Canadian forest management can compare
>>>>> to the great analysis by Nick, who is now an expert in just about
>>>>> everything, especially fire science and wildfire prevention.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> lol. Good one
>>>>
>>>
>>> if dud had an actual critique on the argument he wouldn't be have to 
>>> engaging in a _bear_ origin fallacy
>>>
>> You came here to learn fire science and forest management?
> 
> you came HERE to be enlightened???
> 
So, what are you doing?

Apparently Nick doesn't even have home solar. He's probably using way 
too much energy cooling his crib with an electric heat pump.

At least Nick and Noah could set an example. YMMV.