Re: New Rule: Commie By Your Name

On 8/1/2026 9:18 AM, Tara wrote:
> Noah Sombrero <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 Aug 2026 11:21:22 -0400, Noah Sombrero <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>>> On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 15:19:57 -0000 (UTC), Tara <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>> On Aug 1, 2026 at 11:11:49?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>> On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 15:05:21 -0000 (UTC), Tara <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2026 at 11:00:15?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>>>> On Sat, 01 Aug 2026 10:44:33 -0400, Noah Sombrero <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 14:32:33 -0000 (UTC), Tara <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2026 at 10:20:43?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 11:41:14 -0000 (UTC), Tara <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Fri, Jul 31st 2026. Real Time Bill Maher.   special for Nicks, and Noahs
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRIjYHVh5kI
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For Bill I put the headphones on, cuz I luv you to bits, Bill.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He criticizes the far left for being absolutely too far far left.
>>>>>>>>>> And he criticizes the far right for being absolutely to far far right.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have heard him do it.  But not last night.  Last night was the
>>>>>>>>>> lefties turn.  Good for you Bill.  And this is not their first turn.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have also heard him ask a billionaire to give a billion to the dems,
>>>>>>>>>> because he could afford it, and after all, Bill gave a million.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is true the far left is having a moment because they won a few
>>>>>>>>>> elections.  But most Dems know that NY is not St Louis, or Biloxi.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And hey, 5 grocery stores in NY is not anything like doing away
>>>>>>>>>> with police and borders and the senate.  Let's calm down.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's good about the US, Sarah Palin?  It is a place where people can
>>>>>>>>>> say nutty things and so loose elections, and Bill can say, they are
>>>>>>>>>> saying nutty things.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That much is good.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And here I thought you agreed with Nick and his vision of utopia. Because
>>>>>>>>> Maher's description of the values and ideology of the far far left is Commie
>>>>>>>>> Nick to a tee. Was as I wrong?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have been paying attention, you have heard me be critical of
>>>>>>>> dart.  But I don't think dart is a communist.  Any more than most dems
>>>>>>>> are.  Dart says he has some new ideas.  So scary, new ideas are.  But
>>>>>>>> communism is an old idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I say, lets think about new ideas, not swing back to old discarded
>>>>>>>> ideas.  And I say, that the critical component of new ideas must be
>>>>>>>> ethical leaders which the us is sorely without right now.  If we had
>>>>>>>> more of those, the us could probably trundle along with the system it
>>>>>>>> has now without explosive upheavals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I said a few days ago.  There is no utopia.  Remember that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And before somebody accuses me of simply not liking people who
>>>>>>> disagree with me.  I offer my favorite person who would disagree with
>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Liz Cheney.  The hard line right, war hawk republican much like her
>>>>>>> father, with whom I would have stern disagreements.  However, when the
>>>>>>> crunch came, it became clear that she is ethical.  And decided to
>>>>>>> loose an election where himbo is loved (Wyoming), rather loose than
>>>>>>> support himbo.  Good girl.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now notice the republican response to her disagreement with them.  She
>>>>>>> is pariah.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So who, now, is it that doesn't like people who disagree?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deflection
>>>>>
>>>>> Fudger.
>>>>
>>>> I give one accolade to Nick. He is honest and straight about what he believes.
>>>
>>> Good.  Me too.  See above.
>>
>> And finally, it is no fair to accuse me of things I don't believe and
>> then criticize me for not admitting that I believe such dumb things.
> 
> Ahh. So you think that open borders, no private property, no government and
> all the rest of it are dumb things. Good to know.
>
Apparently, Nick has not thought this through.
The main drawbacks to implementing social democracy in America include 
significantly higher tax burdens, risks of capital flight, and potential 
reductions in economic incentives.

Nick failed to mention any of these drawbacks. Why?

Nick has no incentives. That's why he came to this board.

Social democracy relies on a large, regulated welfare state funded by 
progressive taxation. Funding universal healthcare, free higher 
education, and expansive family leave requires steep, broad-based tax 
increases that often affect middle-income earners, not just corporations 
and the wealthy.