Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On 8/1/2026 9:44 AM, dart200 wrote:
> On 8/1/26 9:39 AM, Dude wrote:
>> On 8/1/2026 7:22 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 19:35:35 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/31/2026 3:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>> On 7/31/26 3:54 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>> Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 13:46:39 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 12:10 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 2:25:03?PM EDT, "Julian" 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 31/07/2026 19:06, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32?PM EDT, "Wilson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for centuries. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. We 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness of our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forests. But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries), it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long term
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grow and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires yet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few weeks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looked like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's best.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and strictly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforced laws
>>>>>>>>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> laziness
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and building 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That would probably be more effective than increasing the price
>>>>>>>>>>>> of petrol, gas and electricity for already stretched workers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> yah. And somebody should point out to the 'tree huggers' that
>>>>>>>>>>> controlled
>>>>>>>>>>> burning actually saves more trees than not doing it because 
>>>>>>>>>>> left to
>>>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>>>> wildfires will continue to happen. And trees will burn even 
>>>>>>>>>>> more so
>>>>>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>>>>>> the weather changes and encroachment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> given that u actually live in canada maybe u should spend half a
>>>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>>>> researching what it takes to do effective fuel management for the
>>>>>>>>>> forests ur actually talking about
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> god boomers are so stupid
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That should wrap up the discussion about the unspoken truth about
>>>>>>>>> wildfires. Good work, Nick! You really trashed Tara's theory by
>>>>>>>>> suggesting that, since she lives in the Canadian forest, she 
>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>> research it using Grok.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Research nothing using grok.  Canada has forest managers, and 
>>>>>>>> you can
>>>>>>>> bet that they do what they can.  The certainly don't need us 
>>>>>>>> telling
>>>>>>>> them how to do their job.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That being said, no analysis of Canadian forest management can 
>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>> to the great analysis by Nick, who is now an expert in just about
>>>>>>> everything, especially fire science and wildfire prevention.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lol. Good one
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> if dud had an actual critique on the argument he wouldn't be have to
>>>>> engaging in a _bear_ origin fallacy
>>>>>
>>>> You came here to learn fire science and forest management?
>>>
>>> You came here to talk shit?
>>  >
>> Nick came here to talk shit, not to get enlightened, but he got 
>> trashed on Usenet for pretending to be a Canadian fire prevention 
>> scientist, when everyone knows Nick lives in a dessert with a few Palm 
>> Trees.
>>
>> So, that should be a wrap.
> 
> you came HERE to get eNlIgHtEnEd???
> 
Next, you'll be explaining to us rocket science!