Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On 7/31/2026 1:34 PM, Tara wrote:
> On Jul 31, 2026 at 4:20:51 PM EDT, "dart200"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/31/26 1:02 PM, Tara wrote:
>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 3:46:18 PM EDT, "dart200"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/31/26 12:35 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 3:11:12 PM EDT, "dart200"
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/31/26 11:25 AM, Julian wrote:
>>>>>>> On 31/07/2026 19:06, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32 PM EDT, "Wilson" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09 PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17 PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned in these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the fire risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told you so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for centuries. Canada is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. We have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness of our forests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European countries), it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long term health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively grow and
>>>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires yet we've had
>>>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few weeks ago it
>>>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what was otherwise a
>>>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions-exposed-
>>>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it really looked
>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's best.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and think that
>>>>>>>> one answer
>>>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and strictly enforced
>>>>>>>> laws
>>>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through laziness and
>>>>>>>> ignorance,
>>>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and building fire resistent
>>>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would probably be more effective than increasing the price
>>>>>>> of petrol, gas and electricity for already stretched workers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jooliean you truly are a useless fucking retard. this ofc isn't written
>>>>>> for u cause ur determined to take ur damned ignorance to the grave, but
>>>>>> for the record:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not only are boreal forest are far too vast to effectively mitigate
>>>>>> increased risk from climate change, meaning we haven't even been
>>>>>> engaging in serious fire suppression for the much of forest so that's
>>>>>> _not_ the cause like cons desperate wants to believe; just controlled
>>>>>> burns don't even effectively mitigate risk as the ecology of a boreal
>>>>>> forest is different than a temperate one, so it requires fuel management
>>>>>> strategies that are far more labor intensive
>>>>>
>>>>> Ummm. if you care to look back a bit, the problem with boreal forests (in
>>>>> Canada) has already been addressed.
>>>>
>>>> why are you such a dumb fucking liar tara???
>>>>
>>>> all u discussed was the size of the forest, u did not discuss the fact
>>>> the conventional controlled burns do not effectively mitigate fire risk
>>>> in boreal forests, nor the increased costs of the various techniques
>>>> that must be employed instead
>>>>
>>>> and you still haven't even after i've pointed it out in several posts.
>>>> clear evidence of refusing to face the facts like a retarded boomer
>>>>
>>>>> classic fucking abdfg con
>>>>>
>>>>> #god
>>>
>>>     Were you aware of this.  Drones - Is fairly new
>>>
>>> B.C. firefighters use drone to ignite a controlled burn while fighting an
>>> active wildfire
>>>
>>> Fons Raedschelders said he “shed a very happy tear” over the weekend after
>>> wildland firefighters in British Columbia conducted a controlled burn using a
>>> drone on an active wildfire.
>>>
>>> “It’s super exciting,” said Raedschelders, superintendent of the BC Wildfire
>>> Service’s cultural and prescribed fire program.
>>>
>>> “Those of us who have been kind of working in this space and thinking about
>>> this for the last six to eight years of where we started the first ones on
>>> prescribed burns, we’ve been waiting for this moment.”
>>>
>>> The wildfire service announced Tuesday that crews had successfully conducted
>>> the controlled burn using a drone on the south flank of the Brunswick complex
>>> of wildfires near Boston Bar, B.C., where residents of hundreds of properties
>>> have been evacuated.
>>>
>>> The operation is described by the province as a Canadian first, and
>>> Raedschelders said in an interview Tuesday that there’s room for many more
>>> applications of drone usage in B.C.’s fight against wildfires.
>>>
>>> He said the service has been testing drones in the prescribed burns program
>>> for several years and knew the technology could have a major impact on how
>>> crews battle fires in a variety of situations.
>>>
>>> “We knew that once we could figure it out and get it in there that it would
>>> provide us with so much,” Raedschelders said.
>>>
>>> The BC Wildfire Service says crews working on the Brunswick complex of
>>> wildfires near Boston Bar northeast of Vancouver used a drone to trigger a
>>> controlled burn in what it says was a Canadian first. The wildfire service
>>> says the drone was able to 'safely and precisely ignite targeted fuels' in
>>> mountainous terrain.
>>>
>>> Using drones to ignite controlled burns allows access to active wildfires in
>>> terrains and situations that are unsuitable for helicopters and groundcrews,
>>> he said.
>>>
>>> The service also uses infrared cameras on the drones to track and map the
>>> progress of fires with high resolution images through thick smoke and other
>>> conditions.
>>>
>>> Raedschelders said the images have been crucial in training firefighting
>>> tactics and they’re used to determine fire conditions without risking people
>>> on the ground.
>>>
>>> “It provides a lot of what we call situational awareness,” he said.
>>>
>>> “Intel is always the most important part of a lot of this work, and to be able
>>> to keep crews safe and be more efficient and have more options and see more,
>>> know more, so we can do the right thing and do more, it’s pretty exciting for
>>> me.”
>>>
>>> For the ignition, crews used the drone to drop plastic spheres the size of
>>> Ping-Pong balls that ignite on impact through a chemical reaction.
>>>
>>> Morgan Blois with the BC Wildfire Service said during a news conference
>>> updating the province’s fire situation on Tuesday that the use of drones to
>>> drop the ignition devices more precisely allows crews to better track the
>>> blaze and “prevent any further unwanted spread.”
>>>
>>> It also improves safety for aircrews, as using drones provides them with a way
>>> to have fewer people in helicopters, preventing unnecessary risks to
>>> personnel, Blois said.
>>>
>>> Speaking at the same news conference in Vancouver, provincial Forests Minister
>>> Ravi Parmar lauded the new use of drones in combatting active wildfires.
>>>
>>> “This is an exciting new step in wildfire suppression here in B.C.,” Parmar
>>> said. “These ignitions are often done by hand or by helicopter and are a key
>>> part in managing wildfires in very challenging terrain.
>>>
>>> “I’m proud that British Columbia is once again leading the way with this
>>> technology, while helping to keep our crews safe.”
>>>
>>> A BC Wildfire Service video posted to Facebook showed the drone flying low
>>> through areas of heavy smoke at levels where helicopters cannot safely
>>> operate.
>>>
>>> Raedschelders said firefighters do not view it as a competition between drones
>>> and helicopters as a method of fighting wildfires, but rather as different
>>> tools that allow to more effectively combat blazes in different settings.
>>>
>>> “We’re constantly uncovering new uses as we integrate the technology,” he
>>> said.
>>>
>>> “The drone itself or the tools or the capabilities are the easy part. I would
>>> say the important part is the integration into response operations and the
>>> systems that we have in place.”
>>>
>>> G&M
>>
>> literally the first thought in my mind is: is that actually a boreal
>> forest??? and the answer is no, boston bar bc is not in a boreal forest
>>
>> so great: controlled burns do work there, but that doesn't represent the
>> vast majority (>75%) of canadian forests which are boreal. bc in general
>> is unusual for canada as it has that whole inland rainforest thing going
>> on as well
>>
>> also we could already do areal ignition by helicopters, this is just a
>> cheaper version that works if u have road access near by (electric drone
>> range ain't great)
> 
> OMG I didn;t say it was a boreal forest. I simply thought that was something
> new and interesting.  Read my post after that where I do address the boreal
> forest thing. You do have a long long reach when you try to counter something
> don't you. give it up already.
 >
He came here to talk to someone, but he he has some social hangups 
obviously. It's usually a cry for help. Apparently, Nick has a lot of 
time on his hands - maybe full-time on the internet. Banned by dozens of 
moderated groups. YMMV.