Re: Exciting New Birth Control Method Called “S ocialism”

On 8/1/2026 1:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 15:04:45 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/1/2026 2:25 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>> On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 13:54:31 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/2026 1:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 12:44:34 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 5:13 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 16:18:26 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm talking about the deep state functionaries who are virtually
>>>>>>>> unfireable wanting to maintain their system of permanent employment and
>>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Himbo has demonstrated that no such level exists in government.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, in terms of control, the election of himbo twice confirms
>>>>>>> that.  If they had control, that would not have happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Influence =/= control.
>>>>>
>>>>> Significant influence is lacking then.  Himbo's presidency proves that
>>>>> much.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are hedging now.  Tara might even say fudging.  Now put that
>>>>> marble back where it was.
>>>>
>>>> The right answer is to make all of the executive branch employees
>>>> fireable by the person in charge of the executive branch. The congress
>>>> won't do that but they should.
>>>
>>> You mean that the entire bureaucracy should be under himbo's control.
>>> So, what is higher than the heads of bureaus?  Replace the head of
>>> fbi, irs,  cia, epa, etc plus much of the workers below that.  Is
>>> there a layer above the heads of departments?  What has been missed?
>>
>> It's not personalized for Trump, it would apply to all presidents and of
>> course you know that.
>>
>>> I happen to think that such agencies should be independent and not
>>> subject to political whims which change as the wind blows, and be free
>>> to make informed decisions rather than political ones.  But I don't
>>> get what I want do I?
>>
>> Ha! As if the bureaucrats don't make political decisions.
> 
> You forgot to tell me what has been missed.  What that essentially
> means is that your deep state does not really exist.  If himbo
> couldn't kill it by replacing department heads and firing thousands,
> it was never really there.
> 
>> How about the citizens getting what they want?
> 
> What we understand is that citizens don't know what to want.  Hunters
> want a forest full of deer and they don't think past what that means
> in terms of consequences.  They simply want what the want.  Perhaps
> you can begin to see how a country needs a longer term vision than
> short term self interest.  Maybe you can.  Perhaps your ideological
> commitments are interfering again.
> 
>> The president is the only
>> elected person voted on by the entire country. It's a unique office in
>> that regard. The congress is a weak and vacillating bunch, often
>> deliberately avoiding doing the will of the people. For reasons that
>> often don't have anything to do with the best interests of the country
>> or the people.
> 
> serving short term self interest, which you told me earlier today is
> actually a good thing.
> 
>> At any rate you're mostly getting what you want in this. The president
>> has very little control over the staffing of the executive branch. Which
>> means he doesn't get to have much say over what they actually do. And
>> what they do is often for their personal benefit and not that of the
>> country or the people.
> 
> The problem is then compounded many times over when the pres himself
> does what he does for exactly those same reasons.  So, a more powerful
> pres is not the answer.
> 
> "Which means he doesn't get to have much say over what they actually
> do."
> 
> The intention was that agencies would be free to make informed long
> term decisions free of political influence.  That, like congress has
> been largely coopted.  Like with the SC there needs to be a body of
> decision makers who can be free of influences outside of what the law
> says, or what science says.  But not any more able to solely decide
> issues than other parts of government.   Separation of powers.  So
> frustratingly inefficient and subject to capture by special interests.
> "Power does not corrupt, but foolish men corrupt power".
> 
> Again, the hope is that there will be enough ethical not-foolish
> people among the thousands of people in federal government to avoid
> total disasters.  But that remains only a threatened hope at this
> point.
> 
> That hope is severely threatened when people like you want to
> concentrate power in one part of one branch, because the certainty is
> that, if not this time, then certainly the next time or the next time,
> the dreaded fool who wants to corrupt power will be in charge.
> 
>> I will continue to think that system is kind of stupid and anti-democratic.
> 
> You want an all powerful pres.  First you need to find a human being
> able to wield such power ethically.
> 
> Your mission should you choose to accept it is to find such a
> not-foolish man.  Good luck.  We get those much less often than once a
> generation.  Maybe it can only happen after a civil war or a
> devastating economic depression.  Because dire events can sometime
> bring forth hidden resources of empathy and ethics.  Not that you
> would agree with what such a not-foolish man might want to do, I
> suspect.
 >
The president is elected by the entire country. Keeping departments 
under the president gives voters a clear way to hold the government 
responsible for how those departments run.

A single leader at the top stops different parts of the government from 
working against each other or ignoring public needs.