Re: Misanthropic Altruism (Philosophy)
Dude <[email protected]> Sat, 1 Aug 2026 15:43:30 -0700
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On 8/1/2026 9:37 AM, dart200 wrote: > On 8/1/26 9:01 AM, Wilson wrote: >> >> "Your daughter’s smile is dearer to you than that of a stranger half a >> world away. Of course it is. Human life is situated and embodied, and >> so are our obligations and loves. But the ideology that holds sway >> over many Silicon Valley elites diagnoses this preference for those >> near and dear to you as an evolutionary defect. Instead, according to >> the adherents of this worldview, every sentient being in every place, >> in every time, holds the same moral claim on every other. This >> philosophy is known as Effective Altruism (EA). >> >> Scandals in the EA world, most notably the downfall of the >> cryptocurrency entrepreneur Sam Bankman-Fried, prompted many effective >> altruists to renounce the name in recent years. But the ideas endure. >> In 2025, six EA-aligned grantmakers deployed $1.25 billion, and this >> number is set to grow along with the success of the world’s leading >> artificial intelligence company, Anthropic, which was founded on EA >> principles. The firm’s founders have pledged to donate 80 percent of >> their wealth upon the firm’s IPO. These wealth pledges, combined with >> the company policy of matching employee donations, will create >> billions in philanthropic capital, channeled through EA’s entrenched >> institutions. >> >> Effective Altruism is the final flowering of utilitarianism, that >> Victorian philosophy of calculating reformers, transplanted into >> Silicon Valley boardrooms and granted the false vitality of billion- >> dollar balance sheets. Because it is constitutively blind to what >> makes a civilization worth preserving, its utopia will entail >> dissolving America in the name of humanity. >> >> Several historical developments help explain EA’s success. One is the >> rise of mass media, which widened the circle of concern that once >> might have encompassed only family and neighbors. By the beginning of >> the 1970s, televisions were present in nearly every American home. >> Footage of people suffering abroad became a regular fact of American >> life. In 1972, the philosopher Peter Singer published "Famine, >> Affluence, and Morality," the essay that would become EA’s foundation. >> His argument was simple: If we can prevent suffering at little cost to >> ourselves, we must, and it makes no moral difference whether the >> person we help is "a neighbor’s child ten yards from me" or a stranger >> on another continent. >> Another precondition for EA’s rise was the modern pathologization of >> traditional sources of identity — nation, religion, family, tradition. >> Especially after World War II, such particular loyalties were recast >> as the wellspring of fascism. Later generations, whose education >> dispossessed them of everything particular, were prepared to receive >> the EA program. >> >> In his 1981 book After Virtue, Alasdair MacIntyre argued that every >> culture is defined by its stock of "characters," the social roles that >> embody its moral ideals. "Characters," he wrote, "are the masks worn >> by moral philosophies." The twentieth century’s main character was the >> bureaucrat, whose authority was derived from a seemingly scientific >> knowledge of human affairs, grounded in the supposed >> incommensurability of facts and values. The bureaucrat administers >> according to facts, while values are condemned to the private sphere. >> His expertise cannot be challenged. The standard of his authority is >> effectiveness. >> He flattens all goods into a single quantifiable dimension, converting >> them into units like lives saved, suffering averted, and dollars per >> outcome. The units’ apparent neutrality conceals a range of >> ideological assumptions. The human "good" becomes a function of EA’s >> calculus. Then, pretending value-neutrality, EA denounces defection as >> backwards, unscientific, and immoral. Any challenge appears to spurn >> both science and human dignity. >> >> More recently, EA’s impartiality has expanded far beyond those >> currently living, to what "longtermists" envision as 10^58+ potential >> future beings — human and digital. These future beings’ existence >> depends on the avoidance of human extinction. The longtermists >> consider AI the dominant existential risk, and frontier development is >> concentrated in a few American labs. >> >> Some have taken the argument to its violent conclusion. Eliezer >> Yudkowsky, the most influential of the doomsayers, wrote in Time that >> nations should "be willing to destroy a rogue datacenter by >> airstrike," nuclear war notwithstanding. And since 2022, the Zizians, >> a cult that splintered off from the same Bay Area rationalist scene, >> have been linked to six killings. >> >> Congress must treat the philanthropic apparatus of frontier AI as it >> treats any concentration of unaccountable power. Lawmakers should >> demand disclosure of the grantmaking networks that fund labs with >> national security implications. They should condition federal >> contracts on terms any defense contractor would recognize: Disclose >> the instructions and value systems trained into the models, certify >> systems sold to the government will execute lawful orders without an >> engineer’s veto, and reserve the government’s right to audit. >> >> The machines our government buys must serve the American people, not >> some present or future humanity. And procurement standards should >> favor open-weight models, which anyone can download, run, and test, so >> that the nation never depends on intelligence a handful of labs can >> withhold. >> —William Thibeau >> >> https://www.compactmag.com/article/misanthropic-altruism/ >> >> The philosophical and ethical question is, is it beneficial to value >> those close to us more highly than others, > > no > >> or is it better to value all human life equally? > > yes > >> >> Is it even /possible/ to value all lives equally? > > yes > >> >> Does attempting to see all life as equal inevitably lead to placing a >> lower value on the lives of those close to us (both temporally and >> physically)? > > no > >> >> What about the lives of those who oppose the idea of seeing all life >> as morally equal? > > > subethical beliefs self-resolve in fate > >> Fate. A natural or divine force that guides the world and decides what will happen before it occurs.