Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires
dart200 <[email protected]> Sat, 1 Aug 2026 19:13:32 -0700
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On 8/1/26 5:30 PM, Dude wrote: > On 8/1/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >> On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 18:04:46 +0100, Julian <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On 30/07/2026 19:04, Julian wrote: >>>> Bordeaux and Madrid are threatened by flames. In Sicily, arsonists tied >>>> burning rags to the tails of cats to spread fires. Here in Britain the >>>> Cairngorms and Peak District national parks are ablaze. It’s the >>>> climate >>>> Armageddon, say the greens. If only we had built more wind farms and >>>> eaten fewer cows this would not be happening. >>>> >>>> Hot, dry spells undoubtedly make fires more likely, but awkwardly for >>>> those blaming climate change, wildfires are getting less frequent >>>> worldwide, not more, as the globe warms. The acreage burned has >>>> decreased steadily since 2000, according to Nasa’s satellites, and is >>>> thought to have almost halved in a century. The great fires of 1871 in >>>> Wisconsin and Michigan burned more than a million hectares long before >>>> anybody drove a car, before even Joseph Swan’s first light bulb, when >>>> the world was cooler. >>>> >>>> It is not just the trend that is surprising. Hard to believe, but this >>>> year is an unusually quiet year for wildfire: so quiet it is breaking >>>> records for lack of fires by this date, even in Europe. If you don’t >>>> believe me, check the figures produced by the Global Wildfire >>>> Information System: as of last week, the world had seen 106 million >>>> hectares burn this year, the lowest at this date since these records >>>> began in 2012. In Europe, just 3.6 million hectares have burned – less >>>> than half the average for this date. That’s cold comfort to people >>>> driven from their homes in France, but it is nonetheless a fact. >>>> >>>> The real issue is that climate change is a handy excuse for politicians >>>> who have failed to take precautionary measures to prevent wildfires. >>>> They can just shrug: it’s global warming, innit? It has been known for >>>> many decades that in fire-prone habitats, the longer you go without a >>>> fire, the worse the fires will be. So preventing the build-up of tinder >>>> by controlled burns is the most important factor. >>>> >>>> The California filmmaker Gabriel Mann’s hard-hitting 2023 documentary >>>> Hotshot showed in detail how fire suppression has made today’s fires >>>> harder to control. He has no patience with those who use climate change >>>> as an alibi. ‘They tell you the sky is falling and it’s all the >>>> fault of >>>> our modern, shitty climate,’ he says. ‘But when was the climate not >>>> shitty?’ >>>> >>>> Here in Britain the government has consistently and relentlessly >>>> demanded less ‘cool’ burning – low-intensity, controlled fires – in >>>> winter on heather moorland, Britain’s most fire-prone habitat. Such >>>> fires have been used by farmers and gamekeepers for generations to >>>> create a mosaic of short and long heather. This encourages fresh young >>>> heather shoots for sheep and grouse to feed on and makes open areas for >>>> rare birds such as golden plover and curlew to nest in. If done in >>>> winter it can burn off the rank heather plants while leaving the moss >>>> underneath barely touched, as demonstrated by a famous video in which a >>>> gamekeeper places a Mars bar in the moss, lights a fierce fire over it, >>>> then picks up the unscorched, unmelted chocolate bar, unwraps it and >>>> eats it. >>>> >>>> Natural England argues that regular cool burning harms the habitat; >>>> researchers at York University and elsewhere argue the opposite: >>>> that it >>>> encourages the growth of sphagnum moss and other species by letting >>>> light in. But both sides agree that regular cool burns can dramatically >>>> reduce the risk of much more damaging wildfires, which burn down >>>> through >>>> the moss layer and into the peat. Cutting heather instead is less >>>> effective but better than nothing. Yet Natural England has banned >>>> heather burning on deep peat altogether and is pushing hard to limit it >>>> further everywhere – or at least tie it up in complicated licensing >>>> rules. As a result, the fuel load on heather moorland has been >>>> increasing; in places the heather is now waist-deep. The National Fire >>>> Chiefs Council warned last year that such restrictions on heather >>>> management would increase ‘the danger to firefighters and the public’. >>>> >>>> Unlike private owners, bodies such as the Royal Society for the >>>> Protection of Birds (RSPB) and the National Trust are refusing to burn >>>> and reluctant to graze heather moorland, as they join the cult of >>>> ‘rewilding’. With the support of government, they plan to mitigate the >>>> fire risk by ‘rewetting’ moors with leaky dams to hold back rainwater. >>>> But this approach is useless in a drought. >>>> >>>> Case in point: the Tintwistle fire in the Peak District spread from a >>>> wild camp in woodland on to a heather moor owned by United Utilities >>>> and >>>> managed by the RSPB. This moor had been extensively ‘rewetted’ yet it >>>> went up like a torch and the fire spread, drowned Manchester in smoke, >>>> burned deep into the peat and was only contained – for now – when local >>>> gamekeepers and Greater Manchester Fire and Rescue used two diggers and >>>> a bulldozer to create a firebreak on its northwest flank on the >>>> neighbouring Stalybridge estate. But so quick is Natural England to >>>> prosecute landowners and gamekeepers for even inadvertently breaking >>>> rules about managing habitat that they were anxious they might be >>>> punished for doing this. >>>> >>>> Richard Bailey, coordinator of the Peak District Moorland Group, >>>> estimates that the past month’s firefighting by gamekeepers would have >>>> cost the taxpayer millions of pounds if done by the fire service. Many >>>> long, hot, hard days and nights have left gamekeepers and their >>>> families >>>> under severe mental strain, alleviated a little by generous food drops >>>> from Micklehurst cricket club. You can imagine how much it sticks in >>>> the >>>> craw for these gamekeepers that they have been working to save land >>>> managed by an organisation that makes the risk worse. >>>> >>>> The nearby Dovestone fire was also started on RSPB-managed land after a >>>> man drowned in the local reservoir and his friends commemorated him >>>> with >>>> fireworks. The Cairngorms fire too began on land owned by the RSPB at >>>> Abernethy. The irony is not lost on locals that the very same people >>>> who >>>> tell us that climate change is an existential crisis are also the ones >>>> urging us to stop using the one tool we know helps to mitigate the >>>> problem. If your view is that climate change is a massive threat, why >>>> are you pursuing policies that increase fuel load? >>>> >>>> The North York Moors fire last year affected 2,500 hectares of >>>> moorland, >>>> smouldering for more than a month in the peat and releasing vast >>>> quantities of carbon dioxide. Yet no Defra minister bothered to visit. >>>> The cost of fighting these fires does not fall on their department, so >>>> why do they care, says Jamie Blackett, founder of Ground Cry, a new >>>> organisation campaigning on behalf of ground-nesting birds like >>>> curlews. >>>> >>>> The authorities know their policies increase the fire risks. Here is >>>> what the Cairngorm National Park says in its Integrated Wildfire >>>> Management Plan about plans to increase shrubs and other vegetation by >>>> reducing deer and stopping burning: ‘These habitats will take many >>>> years >>>> to develop and during the intervening period fuel loads will increase, >>>> as will the corresponding need for fire risk mitigation.’ So they knew >>>> the risk was increasing. But little was done. John Kirk, a board member >>>> of the Cairngorms National Park Authority, told the Strathspey Herald: >>>> ‘Everyone is furious… the entire Abernethy forest has no firebreaks.’ >>>> >>>> Andrew Gilruth, chief executive of the Moorland Association, says: >>>> ‘While Scotland has a clear plan to manage the excess vegetation, in >>>> England the authorities are obsessed with rewilding and restricting all >>>> commonsense measures for reducing fuel loads.’ >>>> >>>> In May, before the drought, Gilruth wrote to MPs who represent moorland >>>> constituencies to point out that the number of firefighters is down >>>> by a >>>> quarter over the past seven years and that the fire service relies >>>> heavily on gamekeepers’ vehicles, water bowsers and other equipment. >>>> Banning the burning of heather means fewer keepers can justify having >>>> such equipment. He described Defra’s refusal to change policy on >>>> heather >>>> burning as reckless. >>>> >>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned in these very pages >>>> last year that government policy was worsening the fire risk on >>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told you so.’ >>>> >>>> >>>> Matt Ridley >>> >>> The EU has failed to get a grip on Europe’s wildfires >> >> As if any old carpenter would know how to do that. Stupid eu anyway. >> > Any old carpenter would know common sense. > > Human activity causes roughly 85% to 90% of all wildfires, with nature > accounting for the remaining small fraction. and despite that: lightning accounts for >50% acreage actually burned in the us, and >90% in northern boreal forests like canada, which is why the climate threat is still _very_ real it's insane how committed to denial u people are i don't even know why really, ur gunna be dead in decade or two, it's not like ur gunna have to face the consequences either way 🤷 like what, u want to go to grave feeling like u weren't the total retard??? > welp, got bad news for u there dud ... > > #god > >>> Europe is burning. From France to Spain, from Portugal to Greece, and >>> even in Britain, the continent has been engulfed by flames this summer. >>> In France, more than 117,000 hectares have been lost to a succession of >>> wildfires and nearly a quarter of a million people have been evacuated. >>> It’s already been dubbed ‘the worst season of fire in history’. >>> >>> In Madrid, Paris and in other European capitals, politicians argue about >>> the fires – or rather the response to them. The lack of fire-fighting >>> aircraft in France, for example, has been seized on by opponents of >>> Emmanuel Macron’s government. >>> >>> Some of the media have focused on the human aspect: the fact that the >>> majority of the fires have been started by people, either inadvertently >>> or deliberately. Hundreds of arrests (predominantly young males) have >>> been made by European police forces and in France courts intend to take >>> ‘tougher criminal action’ to deal with fire-starters. >>> >>> But all this misses the crucial point, as Matt Ridley wrote in this >>> week’s magazine. Most of Europe has made a mess of its wildfire >>> management strategy this century. Ridley quoted Andrew Gilruth, chief >>> executive of the Moorland Association, who explained: ‘In England the >>> authorities are obsessed with rewilding and restricting all commonsense >>> measures for reducing fuel loads.’ >>> >>> A lack of common sense has characterised Europe’s response to wildfires >>> in the 21st century. During the scorching summer of 2003, some 740,000 >>> hectares were burnt and in response, the EU ‘set up an expert group to >>> advise on how to prevent and fight fires in Europe’. >>> >>> They published a report in early 2005, Forest Fires in Europe, declaring >>> that their ‘general principle is to restore nature and not to change the >>> landscape’. The report contained a great many statistics about forest >>> fires in EU member states and bemoaned ‘the lack of a common EU forestry >>> policy framework’. The report recognised the increased risk because of >>> ‘climate change and desertification’ but it didn’t offer coherent >>> solutions. >>> >>> It took another 21 years before the EU finally unveiled its wildfire >>> strategy in March this year. It contained the usual Brussels waffle >>> about ‘holistic approaches’ and ‘stakeholders’. Roxana Mînzatu, the >>> Executive Vice-President for Social Rights and Skills, Quality Jobs and >>> Preparedness, declared: >>> >>> Europe must be ready before the first fire starts. That means building a >>> real culture of preparedness: equipping people with the right skills, >>> supporting firefighters and first responders, and helping communities >>> understand the risks they face. >>> >>> Underneath the trite soundbites, there was a recognition in the report >>> that Europe has allowed great areas of combustible vegetation to spread >>> throughout EU member states in recent decades. Abandoned farmland and >>> unmanaged forests, together with droughts and rising temperatures, have >>> created the conditions for a perfect firestorm. >>> >>> The report said that in order to prevent future wildfires, the EU must >>> pay ‘farmers and foresters to thin forests, graze livestock and restore >>> abandoned land’. It also recommended restoring peatlands, flood plains >>> and wetlands to retain moisture. >>> >>> This strategy will take years to implement effectively. And, crucially, >>> has the EU really got the will? At a meeting of agriculture ministers in >>> Brussels in May, Environment Conmissioner Jessika Roswall announced that >>> the Commission does ‘not plan any new initiatives on forest management’. >>> >>> The management of forests and land planning is also the preserve of >>> individual governments and the EU has struggled for a unified approach. >>> Brussels can recommend and encourage but it can’t force governments to >>> act. Sweden and Finland are the most resistant to EU interference on >>> forest management, while France also broadly believes the issue should >>> be one of national competence. >>> >>> Critics claim there is no competence. There was a huge wildfire in the >>> south-west of France in 2022, an area famous for its intensive maritime >>> pine monoculture. Many hectares of pine trees were lost. The response? >>> To replant thousands of pine trees in exactly the same layout. >>> >>> On Monday, Emmanuel Macron visited the Gironde department, in the >>> south-west of France, where more than 40,000 hectares have been lost to >>> flames this month. The president was confronted by the independent mayor >>> of one town affected by the fire. >>> >>> ‘We need a better-maintained, larger firebreak, even if it means losing >>> 1,000 or 2,000 hectares,’ said Bruno Lafon, the independent mayor of >>> Biganos and the head of the association for the protection of forests >>> against fire in his region. >>> >>> Lafon also took aim at politicians and environmentalists pontificating >>> in Paris. ‘We need to stop talking,’ he said, adding that the Paris >>> elite and the people whose homes are burning ‘no longer live in the same >>> world’. >>> >>> The same rings true of the Brussels elite. It’s time to stop talking and >>> take commonsense action. >>> >>> >>> Gavin Mortimer > -- why are we god? let's end war 🙃