Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On 8/1/26 12:21 PM, Dude wrote:
> On 8/1/2026 9:53 AM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 8/1/26 9:50 AM, Dude wrote:
>>> On 7/31/2026 8:25 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 7/31/26 7:35 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>> On 7/31/2026 3:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/31/26 3:54 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>> Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 13:46:39 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 12:10 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 2:25:03?PM EDT, "Julian" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 31/07/2026 19:06, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32?PM EDT, "Wilson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fire risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> centuries. Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. We 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness of our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forests. But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries), it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> term health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grow and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet we've had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks ago it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was otherwise a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looked like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's best.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and strictly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforced laws
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laziness and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and building 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would probably be more effective than increasing the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> price
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of petrol, gas and electricity for already stretched workers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> yah. And somebody should point out to the 'tree huggers' 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled
>>>>>>>>>>>> burning actually saves more trees than not doing it because 
>>>>>>>>>>>> left to
>>>>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>>>>> wildfires will continue to happen. And trees will burn even 
>>>>>>>>>>>> more so
>>>>>>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the weather changes and encroachment.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> given that u actually live in canada maybe u should spend 
>>>>>>>>>>> half a second
>>>>>>>>>>> researching what it takes to do effective fuel management for 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> forests ur actually talking about
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> god boomers are so stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That should wrap up the discussion about the unspoken truth about
>>>>>>>>>> wildfires. Good work, Nick! You really trashed Tara's theory by
>>>>>>>>>> suggesting that, since she lives in the Canadian forest, she 
>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> research it using Grok.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Research nothing using grok.  Canada has forest managers, and 
>>>>>>>>> you can
>>>>>>>>> bet that they do what they can.  The certainly don't need us 
>>>>>>>>> telling
>>>>>>>>> them how to do their job.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That being said, no analysis of Canadian forest management can 
>>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>>> to the great analysis by Nick, who is now an expert in just about
>>>>>>>> everything, especially fire science and wildfire prevention.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lol. Good one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if dud had an actual critique on the argument he wouldn't be have 
>>>>>> to engaging in a _bear_ origin fallacy
>>>>>>
>>>>> You came here to learn fire science and forest management?
>>>>
>>>> you came HERE to be enlightened???
>>>>
>>> So, what are you doing?
>>>
>>> Apparently Nick doesn't even have home solar. He's probably using way 
>>> too much energy cooling his crib with an electric heat pump.
>>>
>>> At least Nick and Noah could set an example. YMMV.
>>
>> you came HERE to get eNlIgHtEnEd???
>>
> Let's not be hypocritical! You and Noah could do something to help save 
> the planet. Do nothing, do nothing, deny deny.

let me ask again: you came HERE to get eNlIgHtEnEd???

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