Re: Ceuta is what happens when you’re not serio us about migration
Dude <[email protected]> Sun, 2 Aug 2026 10:51:15 -0700
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On 8/2/2026 9:48 AM, Wilson wrote: > On 8/1/2026 10:37 PM, dart200 wrote: >> On 8/1/26 10:17 AM, Julian wrote: >>> Ursula von der Leyen doesn’t seem to care about the tide of people >>> rushing the Spanish border. Voters in Britain will >>> >>> >>> If any of us were in doubt about the scale of the problem facing our >>> borders, that ended in half an hour on Thursday. Thousands of topless >>> Moroccan men were filmed scrambling over rocks, pushing over walls >>> and setting things on fire as they rushed into Ceuta, the Spanish >>> exclave in north Africa. >>> >>> To watch the footage was, simply, to be boggled. How many people were >>> in that frame? Why were they doing this? Who even were they? >>> >>> And what about the people of Ceuta, a city with a population smaller >>> than Eastbourne on the coast near Tangier, long governed by Spain? >>> What would we do if Eastbourne was overrun by 60,000 foreign berserkers? >>> >>> Some would argue it already has been. >>> >>> I’ve written a lot about Nigel Farage, the movement of people and the >>> threat of small boats. And, to be honest, I’ve always been a bit >>> embarrassed doing it. You don’t have to have watched The Odyssey to >>> know that human decency says you must at least try to welcome >>> refugees and migrants, especially if you’re one of the richest >>> countries in the world and they’re victims of wars you’ve started or >>> meddled in — which is, of course, in the end, most of the wars. This >>> has always been Europe’s position. >>> >>> Yet, looking at the surging crowds, I thought: hasn’t it gone a bit >>> far now? Europe wants us to do what? >>> >>> They want us to just deal with thousands more illegals, on top of the >>> thousands who have already come here on boats this year — 752 on >>> Wednesday alone — because they simply can’t be bothered to stop them >>> or, worse, expect us to actually welcome them in, as they do? To give >>> them free houses, taxis, mobile phones, allow scores of dependants to >>> also come across — because: human rights — when there are barely >>> enough houses for the people who are already here, when taxes are >>> this high, when the NHS is messy, dysfunctional and killing people? >>> >>> Are we just expected to take it? >>> >>> For Ursula von der Leyen, the useless, robo-haired functionary at the >>> top of the European Commission, the answer is yes. She couldn’t have >>> cared less about the Ceuta stampede. At most, for her, thousands of >>> gleeful men romping up metal railings, raiding shops and then >>> sleeping, half-naked, out in the open, were a mere HR/health and >>> safety issue. >>> >>> “Dangerous crossings” must not happen, she tweeted on Friday. “I >>> tasked two commissioners to support to control the situation.” >>> >>> I looked up the commissioners. One was a wet-looking Austrian ninth- >>> tier politician, a holder of the Grand Cross of Liechtenstein. The >>> other was a former mayor of Dubrovnik and recipient of the 2006 World >>> Mayor Award. Are they real people? It’s like sending Gareth and Dawn >>> from The Office. >>> >>> Europe has never been serious about stopping migration. >>> Philosophically, it’s not their thing. Effective returns of people >>> who flood into Greece, Spain, Italy, France and so on bump along at >>> only 28 per cent. Spain’s prime minister, Pedro Sánchez, whose recent >>> policies made the rush on Ceuta possible, could not, when he >>> addressed the press on Friday, even bring himself to use the word >>> “border”. The police would put a “physical containment barrier” in >>> the sea, he said, to stop migrants swimming the three miles from >>> Morocco to Spain. >>> >>> How about telling them they simply won’t be welcome? How about not >>> promising an amnesty, as he did this year, prompting the surge? How >>> about seeing a huge body of random people just over the border and >>> not automatically thinking, what can I do to make it even easier for >>> these people to enter my territory? What can I give them? Shall I >>> pass them a lifejacket, a cup of tea, a credit card, an SUV and a >>> four-bedroom house in Kilburn? >>> >>> These people aren’t refugees, by the way, or asylum seekers. They’re >>> economic migrants, chancing it. As one of them put it, when the >>> border’s down they’ll try anything, because: “Salaries are very low >>> in Morocco. It’s dead, Morocco is dead.” >>> >>> For them, Ceuta’s a jaunty day trip. >>> >>> Any serious attempt to deal with the many millions who flood in is >>> resisted with psychotic anger in the European parliament. Its recent >>> plan to create “return hubs” was met with scorn. One commissioner, >>> two weeks ago, said that “extraterritorial centres” had bad human >>> rights records. Australia’s plans led to “years of arbitrary >>> detention in inhuman conditions”. Similar plans by Israel (it’s >>> always Israel) left asylum seekers in “legal limbo”. >>> >>> Fear of legal limbo — is that a reason to desecrate an entire >>> continent? These politicians are consumed by madness and guilt. They >>> are embarrassed by Europe’s wealth, its global standing and its >>> relative ease of life. They feel it is their mission to tear this >>> down by waving in thousands of people who shouldn’t be here. And >>> those people know this, which is why thousands still tip up in Italy >>> each month, to Giorgia Meloni’s horror. Sánchez himself has said that >>> Spain will welcome 500,000 migrants. This will tear Europe apart. >>> >>> Some of these arrivals will head out of Spain and go north, attracted >>> by our better healthcare, education system and free houses. >>> >>> We pay the French £662 million to stop them coming here from Calais, >>> but, as Chris Philp, the shadow home secretary, found out on Tuesday, >>> like every EU official with a lifejacket they don’t do the job. >>> >>> Philp was mocked for running up and down the French coast, asking the >>> gendarmerie why they were doing “absolutely nothing” to stop people- >>> smugglers loading up hundreds on boats in front of them. “Our order >>> is to let them go like that,” shrugged one. “We just have to say to >>> them, don’t do that, it’s dangerous.” >>> >>> As I said: mere health and safety. >>> >>> The strange thing about migration is that it should be the easiest >>> thing in the world to manage. There is nothing more simple than >>> securing the borders of one’s country. Yet many politicians seem >>> unable to speak on this matter. Andy Burnham and Ed Miliband, the >>> foreign secretary — all tongue-tied. >>> >>> On other subjects, the prime minister won’t shut up: poetry, tea, >>> pubs, education, bus fares, electricity, who he’s going tax, why he >>> felt Cambridge let him down. On Europe, he couldn’t be clearer: he >>> wants an “even closer” relationship. On immigration, though, nothing. >>> >>> At some point, perhaps when he sees his TikToks falling off a cliff >>> as eyeballs race to the astonishing pictures of Moroccans marching in >>> relentless columns across Spanish soil, he may realise that however >>> much the EU tries to obfuscate the reality of what is happening, >>> however much they try to tidy it away (“50,000 have gone back now”), >>> however much they pretend that what happened on Thursday wasn’t their >>> Tiananmen Square — an event we can never unsee — there are only two >>> subjects that will interest people at the next election. Money, and >>> this. >>> >>> The longer Burnham prevaricates and utters soundbites, the longer >>> Labour tries to pretend the matter is in hand when it isn’t, the more >>> people will come across, the more our seaside towns will be >>> destroyed, the more stories will leak out about migrants bringing >>> over 18 members of their families and/or raping people. Is he ready >>> for it? >>> >>> >>> Camilla Long >> >> capitalists and crying about free association: name a more ironic duo >> > > Do the citizens of Ceuta get a say in who they associate with? > > Apparently not. > > It's just the invaders who get to decide. That's what makes it free! > Do you think this Nick guy reads a newspaper?