Re: Ceuta is what happens when you’re not serio us about migration

On 8/2/2026 10:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Aug 2026 12:48:48 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/1/2026 10:37 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 8/1/26 10:17 AM, Julian wrote:
>>>> Ursula von der Leyen doesn’t seem to care about the tide of people
>>>> rushing the Spanish border. Voters in Britain will
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If any of us were in doubt about the scale of the problem facing our
>>>> borders, that ended in half an hour on Thursday. Thousands of topless
>>>> Moroccan men were filmed scrambling over rocks, pushing over walls and
>>>> setting things on fire as they rushed into Ceuta, the Spanish exclave
>>>> in north Africa.
>>>>
>>>> To watch the footage was, simply, to be boggled. How many people were
>>>> in that frame? Why were they doing this? Who even were they?
>>>>
>>>> And what about the people of Ceuta, a city with a population smaller
>>>> than Eastbourne on the coast near Tangier, long governed by Spain?
>>>> What would we do if Eastbourne was overrun by 60,000 foreign berserkers?
>>>>
>>>> Some would argue it already has been.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve written a lot about Nigel Farage, the movement of people and the
>>>> threat of small boats. And, to be honest, I’ve always been a bit
>>>> embarrassed doing it. You don’t have to have watched The Odyssey to
>>>> know that human decency says you must at least try to welcome refugees
>>>> and migrants, especially if you’re one of the richest countries in the
>>>> world and they’re victims of wars you’ve started or meddled in — which
>>>> is, of course, in the end, most of the wars. This has always been
>>>> Europe’s position.
>>>>
>>>> Yet, looking at the surging crowds, I thought: hasn’t it gone a bit
>>>> far now? Europe wants us to do what?
>>>>
>>>> They want us to just deal with thousands more illegals, on top of the
>>>> thousands who have already come here on boats this year — 752 on
>>>> Wednesday alone — because they simply can’t be bothered to stop them
>>>> or, worse, expect us to actually welcome them in, as they do? To give
>>>> them free houses, taxis, mobile phones, allow scores of dependants to
>>>> also come across — because: human rights — when there are barely
>>>> enough houses for the people who are already here, when taxes are this
>>>> high, when the NHS is messy, dysfunctional and killing people?
>>>>
>>>> Are we just expected to take it?
>>>>
>>>> For Ursula von der Leyen, the useless, robo-haired functionary at the
>>>> top of the European Commission, the answer is yes. She couldn’t have
>>>> cared less about the Ceuta stampede. At most, for her, thousands of
>>>> gleeful men romping up metal railings, raiding shops and then
>>>> sleeping, half-naked, out in the open, were a mere HR/health and
>>>> safety issue.
>>>>
>>>> “Dangerous crossings” must not happen, she tweeted on Friday. “I
>>>> tasked two commissioners to support to control the situation.”
>>>>
>>>> I looked up the commissioners. One was a wet-looking Austrian ninth-
>>>> tier politician, a holder of the Grand Cross of Liechtenstein. The
>>>> other was a former mayor of Dubrovnik and recipient of the 2006 World
>>>> Mayor Award. Are they real people? It’s like sending Gareth and Dawn
>>>> from The Office.
>>>>
>>>> Europe has never been serious about stopping migration.
>>>> Philosophically, it’s not their thing. Effective returns of people who
>>>> flood into Greece, Spain, Italy, France and so on bump along at only
>>>> 28 per cent. Spain’s prime minister, Pedro Sánchez, whose recent
>>>> policies made the rush on Ceuta possible, could not, when he addressed
>>>> the press on Friday, even bring himself to use the word “border”. The
>>>> police would put a “physical containment barrier” in the sea, he said,
>>>> to stop migrants swimming the three miles from Morocco to Spain.
>>>>
>>>> How about telling them they simply won’t be welcome? How about not
>>>> promising an amnesty, as he did this year, prompting the surge? How
>>>> about seeing a huge body of random people just over the border and not
>>>> automatically thinking, what can I do to make it even easier for these
>>>> people to enter my territory? What can I give them? Shall I pass them
>>>> a lifejacket, a cup of tea, a credit card, an SUV and a four-bedroom
>>>> house in Kilburn?
>>>>
>>>> These people aren’t refugees, by the way, or asylum seekers. They’re
>>>> economic migrants, chancing it. As one of them put it, when the
>>>> border’s down they’ll try anything, because: “Salaries are very low in
>>>> Morocco. It’s dead, Morocco is dead.”
>>>>
>>>> For them, Ceuta’s a jaunty day trip.
>>>>
>>>> Any serious attempt to deal with the many millions who flood in is
>>>> resisted with psychotic anger in the European parliament. Its recent
>>>> plan to create “return hubs” was met with scorn. One commissioner, two
>>>> weeks ago, said  that  “extraterritorial centres” had bad human rights
>>>> records. Australia’s plans led to “years of arbitrary detention in
>>>> inhuman conditions”. Similar plans by Israel (it’s always Israel) left
>>>> asylum seekers in “legal limbo”.
>>>>
>>>> Fear of legal limbo — is that a reason to desecrate an entire
>>>> continent? These politicians are consumed by madness and guilt. They
>>>> are embarrassed by Europe’s wealth, its global standing and its
>>>> relative ease of life. They feel it is their mission to tear this down
>>>> by waving in thousands of people who shouldn’t be here. And those
>>>> people know this, which is why thousands still tip up in Italy each
>>>> month, to Giorgia Meloni’s horror. Sánchez himself has said that Spain
>>>> will welcome 500,000  migrants. This will tear Europe apart.
>>>>
>>>> Some of these arrivals will head out of Spain and go north, attracted
>>>> by our better healthcare, education system and free houses.
>>>>
>>>> We pay the French £662 million to stop them coming here from Calais,
>>>> but, as Chris Philp, the shadow home secretary, found out on Tuesday,
>>>> like every EU official with a lifejacket they don’t do the job.
>>>>
>>>> Philp was mocked for running up and down the French coast, asking the
>>>> gendarmerie why they were doing “absolutely nothing” to stop people-
>>>> smugglers loading up hundreds on boats in front of them. “Our order is
>>>> to let them go like that,” shrugged one. “We just have to say to them,
>>>> don’t do that, it’s dangerous.”
>>>>
>>>> As I said: mere health and safety.
>>>>
>>>> The strange thing about migration is that it should be the easiest
>>>> thing in the world to manage. There is nothing more simple than
>>>> securing the borders of one’s country. Yet many politicians seem
>>>> unable to speak on this matter. Andy Burnham and Ed Miliband, the
>>>> foreign secretary — all tongue-tied.
>>>>
>>>> On other subjects, the prime minister won’t shut up: poetry, tea,
>>>> pubs, education, bus fares, electricity, who he’s going tax, why he
>>>> felt Cambridge let him down. On Europe, he couldn’t be clearer: he
>>>> wants an “even closer” relationship. On immigration, though, nothing.
>>>>
>>>> At some point, perhaps when he sees his TikToks falling off a cliff as
>>>> eyeballs race to the astonishing pictures of Moroccans marching in
>>>> relentless columns across Spanish soil, he may realise that however
>>>> much the EU tries to obfuscate the reality of what is happening,
>>>> however much they try to tidy it away (“50,000 have gone back now”),
>>>> however much they pretend that what happened on Thursday wasn’t their
>>>> Tiananmen Square — an event we can never unsee — there are only two
>>>> subjects that will interest people at the next election. Money, and this.
>>>>
>>>> The longer Burnham prevaricates and utters soundbites, the longer
>>>> Labour tries to pretend the matter is in hand when it isn’t, the more
>>>> people will come across, the more our seaside towns will be destroyed,
>>>> the more stories will leak out about migrants bringing over 18 members
>>>> of their families and/or raping people. Is he ready for it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Camilla Long
>>>
>>> capitalists and crying about free association: name a more ironic duo
>>>
>>
>> Do the citizens of Ceuta get a say in who they associate with?
>>
>> Apparently not.
> 
> It does sound like Spain put a stop to the mess.
> 
>> It's just the invaders who get to decide. That's what makes it free!
> 
> What has been decided apparently, is return people to morocco and
> then:
> do nothing, do nothing do nothing.  Move along, nothing to see here,
> nobody is suffering, everybody is happy.
 >
So, what's your plan?