Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires
Dude <[email protected]> Sun, 2 Aug 2026 19:32:02 -0700
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On 8/1/2026 7:13 PM, dart200 wrote: > On 8/1/26 5:30 PM, Dude wrote: >> On 8/1/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>> On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 18:04:46 +0100, Julian <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 30/07/2026 19:04, Julian wrote: >>>>> Bordeaux and Madrid are threatened by flames. In Sicily, arsonists >>>>> tied >>>>> burning rags to the tails of cats to spread fires. Here in Britain the >>>>> Cairngorms and Peak District national parks are ablaze. It’s the >>>>> climate >>>>> Armageddon, say the greens. If only we had built more wind farms and >>>>> eaten fewer cows this would not be happening. >>>>> >>>>> Hot, dry spells undoubtedly make fires more likely, but awkwardly for >>>>> those blaming climate change, wildfires are getting less frequent >>>>> worldwide, not more, as the globe warms. The acreage burned has >>>>> decreased steadily since 2000, according to Nasa’s satellites, and is >>>>> thought to have almost halved in a century. The great fires of 1871 in >>>>> Wisconsin and Michigan burned more than a million hectares long before >>>>> anybody drove a car, before even Joseph Swan’s first light bulb, when >>>>> the world was cooler. >>>>> >>>>> It is not just the trend that is surprising. Hard to believe, but this >>>>> year is an unusually quiet year for wildfire: so quiet it is breaking >>>>> records for lack of fires by this date, even in Europe. If you don’t >>>>> believe me, check the figures produced by the Global Wildfire >>>>> Information System: as of last week, the world had seen 106 million >>>>> hectares burn this year, the lowest at this date since these records >>>>> began in 2012. In Europe, just 3.6 million hectares have burned – less >>>>> than half the average for this date. That’s cold comfort to people >>>>> driven from their homes in France, but it is nonetheless a fact. >>>>> >>>>> The real issue is that climate change is a handy excuse for >>>>> politicians >>>>> who have failed to take precautionary measures to prevent wildfires. >>>>> They can just shrug: it’s global warming, innit? It has been known for >>>>> many decades that in fire-prone habitats, the longer you go without a >>>>> fire, the worse the fires will be. So preventing the build-up of >>>>> tinder >>>>> by controlled burns is the most important factor. >>>>> >>>>> The California filmmaker Gabriel Mann’s hard-hitting 2023 documentary >>>>> Hotshot showed in detail how fire suppression has made today’s fires >>>>> harder to control. He has no patience with those who use climate >>>>> change >>>>> as an alibi. ‘They tell you the sky is falling and it’s all the >>>>> fault of >>>>> our modern, shitty climate,’ he says. ‘But when was the climate not >>>>> shitty?’ >>>>> >>>>> Here in Britain the government has consistently and relentlessly >>>>> demanded less ‘cool’ burning – low-intensity, controlled fires – in >>>>> winter on heather moorland, Britain’s most fire-prone habitat. Such >>>>> fires have been used by farmers and gamekeepers for generations to >>>>> create a mosaic of short and long heather. This encourages fresh young >>>>> heather shoots for sheep and grouse to feed on and makes open areas >>>>> for >>>>> rare birds such as golden plover and curlew to nest in. If done in >>>>> winter it can burn off the rank heather plants while leaving the moss >>>>> underneath barely touched, as demonstrated by a famous video in >>>>> which a >>>>> gamekeeper places a Mars bar in the moss, lights a fierce fire over >>>>> it, >>>>> then picks up the unscorched, unmelted chocolate bar, unwraps it and >>>>> eats it. >>>>> >>>>> Natural England argues that regular cool burning harms the habitat; >>>>> researchers at York University and elsewhere argue the opposite: >>>>> that it >>>>> encourages the growth of sphagnum moss and other species by letting >>>>> light in. But both sides agree that regular cool burns can >>>>> dramatically >>>>> reduce the risk of much more damaging wildfires, which burn down >>>>> through >>>>> the moss layer and into the peat. Cutting heather instead is less >>>>> effective but better than nothing. Yet Natural England has banned >>>>> heather burning on deep peat altogether and is pushing hard to >>>>> limit it >>>>> further everywhere – or at least tie it up in complicated licensing >>>>> rules. As a result, the fuel load on heather moorland has been >>>>> increasing; in places the heather is now waist-deep. The National Fire >>>>> Chiefs Council warned last year that such restrictions on heather >>>>> management would increase ‘the danger to firefighters and the public’. >>>>> >>>>> Unlike private owners, bodies such as the Royal Society for the >>>>> Protection of Birds (RSPB) and the National Trust are refusing to burn >>>>> and reluctant to graze heather moorland, as they join the cult of >>>>> ‘rewilding’. With the support of government, they plan to mitigate the >>>>> fire risk by ‘rewetting’ moors with leaky dams to hold back rainwater. >>>>> But this approach is useless in a drought. >>>>> >>>>> Case in point: the Tintwistle fire in the Peak District spread from a >>>>> wild camp in woodland on to a heather moor owned by United >>>>> Utilities and >>>>> managed by the RSPB. This moor had been extensively ‘rewetted’ yet it >>>>> went up like a torch and the fire spread, drowned Manchester in smoke, >>>>> burned deep into the peat and was only contained – for now – when >>>>> local >>>>> gamekeepers and Greater Manchester Fire and Rescue used two diggers >>>>> and >>>>> a bulldozer to create a firebreak on its northwest flank on the >>>>> neighbouring Stalybridge estate. But so quick is Natural England to >>>>> prosecute landowners and gamekeepers for even inadvertently breaking >>>>> rules about managing habitat that they were anxious they might be >>>>> punished for doing this. >>>>> >>>>> Richard Bailey, coordinator of the Peak District Moorland Group, >>>>> estimates that the past month’s firefighting by gamekeepers would have >>>>> cost the taxpayer millions of pounds if done by the fire service. Many >>>>> long, hot, hard days and nights have left gamekeepers and their >>>>> families >>>>> under severe mental strain, alleviated a little by generous food drops >>>>> from Micklehurst cricket club. You can imagine how much it sticks >>>>> in the >>>>> craw for these gamekeepers that they have been working to save land >>>>> managed by an organisation that makes the risk worse. >>>>> >>>>> The nearby Dovestone fire was also started on RSPB-managed land >>>>> after a >>>>> man drowned in the local reservoir and his friends commemorated him >>>>> with >>>>> fireworks. The Cairngorms fire too began on land owned by the RSPB at >>>>> Abernethy. The irony is not lost on locals that the very same >>>>> people who >>>>> tell us that climate change is an existential crisis are also the ones >>>>> urging us to stop using the one tool we know helps to mitigate the >>>>> problem. If your view is that climate change is a massive threat, why >>>>> are you pursuing policies that increase fuel load? >>>>> >>>>> The North York Moors fire last year affected 2,500 hectares of >>>>> moorland, >>>>> smouldering for more than a month in the peat and releasing vast >>>>> quantities of carbon dioxide. Yet no Defra minister bothered to visit. >>>>> The cost of fighting these fires does not fall on their department, so >>>>> why do they care, says Jamie Blackett, founder of Ground Cry, a new >>>>> organisation campaigning on behalf of ground-nesting birds like >>>>> curlews. >>>>> >>>>> The authorities know their policies increase the fire risks. Here is >>>>> what the Cairngorm National Park says in its Integrated Wildfire >>>>> Management Plan about plans to increase shrubs and other vegetation by >>>>> reducing deer and stopping burning: ‘These habitats will take many >>>>> years >>>>> to develop and during the intervening period fuel loads will increase, >>>>> as will the corresponding need for fire risk mitigation.’ So they knew >>>>> the risk was increasing. But little was done. John Kirk, a board >>>>> member >>>>> of the Cairngorms National Park Authority, told the Strathspey Herald: >>>>> ‘Everyone is furious… the entire Abernethy forest has no firebreaks.’ >>>>> >>>>> Andrew Gilruth, chief executive of the Moorland Association, says: >>>>> ‘While Scotland has a clear plan to manage the excess vegetation, in >>>>> England the authorities are obsessed with rewilding and restricting >>>>> all >>>>> commonsense measures for reducing fuel loads.’ >>>>> >>>>> In May, before the drought, Gilruth wrote to MPs who represent >>>>> moorland >>>>> constituencies to point out that the number of firefighters is down >>>>> by a >>>>> quarter over the past seven years and that the fire service relies >>>>> heavily on gamekeepers’ vehicles, water bowsers and other equipment. >>>>> Banning the burning of heather means fewer keepers can justify having >>>>> such equipment. He described Defra’s refusal to change policy on >>>>> heather >>>>> burning as reckless. >>>>> >>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned in these very >>>>> pages >>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the fire risk on >>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told you so.’ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Matt Ridley >>>> >>>> The EU has failed to get a grip on Europe’s wildfires >>> >>> As if any old carpenter would know how to do that. Stupid eu anyway. >>> >> Any old carpenter would know common sense. >> >> Human activity causes roughly 85% to 90% of all wildfires, with nature >> accounting for the remaining small fraction. > > and despite that: lightning accounts for >50% acreage actually burned in > the us, and >90% in northern boreal forests like canada, which is why > the climate threat is still _very_ real > > it's insane how committed to denial u people are > > i don't even know why really, ur gunna be dead in decade or two, it's > not like ur gunna have to face the consequences either way 🤷 like what, > u want to go to grave feeling like u weren't the total retard??? > > > welp, got bad news for u there dud ... > > > > #god > >> > Any old carpenter would know common sense. Human activity and lightening causes roughly 85% to 90% of all wildfires, with nature accounting for the remaining small fraction. > >> >>>> Europe is burning. From France to Spain, from Portugal to Greece, and >>>> even in Britain, the continent has been engulfed by flames this summer. >>>> In France, more than 117,000 hectares have been lost to a succession of >>>> wildfires and nearly a quarter of a million people have been evacuated. >>>> It’s already been dubbed ‘the worst season of fire in history’. >>>> >>>> In Madrid, Paris and in other European capitals, politicians argue >>>> about >>>> the fires – or rather the response to them. The lack of fire-fighting >>>> aircraft in France, for example, has been seized on by opponents of >>>> Emmanuel Macron’s government. >>>> >>>> Some of the media have focused on the human aspect: the fact that the >>>> majority of the fires have been started by people, either inadvertently >>>> or deliberately. Hundreds of arrests (predominantly young males) have >>>> been made by European police forces and in France courts intend to take >>>> ‘tougher criminal action’ to deal with fire-starters. >>>> >>>> But all this misses the crucial point, as Matt Ridley wrote in this >>>> week’s magazine. Most of Europe has made a mess of its wildfire >>>> management strategy this century. Ridley quoted Andrew Gilruth, chief >>>> executive of the Moorland Association, who explained: ‘In England the >>>> authorities are obsessed with rewilding and restricting all commonsense >>>> measures for reducing fuel loads.’ >>>> >>>> A lack of common sense has characterised Europe’s response to wildfires >>>> in the 21st century. During the scorching summer of 2003, some 740,000 >>>> hectares were burnt and in response, the EU ‘set up an expert group to >>>> advise on how to prevent and fight fires in Europe’. >>>> >>>> They published a report in early 2005, Forest Fires in Europe, >>>> declaring >>>> that their ‘general principle is to restore nature and not to change >>>> the >>>> landscape’. The report contained a great many statistics about forest >>>> fires in EU member states and bemoaned ‘the lack of a common EU >>>> forestry >>>> policy framework’. The report recognised the increased risk because of >>>> ‘climate change and desertification’ but it didn’t offer coherent >>>> solutions. >>>> >>>> It took another 21 years before the EU finally unveiled its wildfire >>>> strategy in March this year. It contained the usual Brussels waffle >>>> about ‘holistic approaches’ and ‘stakeholders’. Roxana Mînzatu, the >>>> Executive Vice-President for Social Rights and Skills, Quality Jobs and >>>> Preparedness, declared: >>>> >>>> Europe must be ready before the first fire starts. That means >>>> building a >>>> real culture of preparedness: equipping people with the right skills, >>>> supporting firefighters and first responders, and helping communities >>>> understand the risks they face. >>>> >>>> Underneath the trite soundbites, there was a recognition in the report >>>> that Europe has allowed great areas of combustible vegetation to spread >>>> throughout EU member states in recent decades. Abandoned farmland and >>>> unmanaged forests, together with droughts and rising temperatures, have >>>> created the conditions for a perfect firestorm. >>>> >>>> The report said that in order to prevent future wildfires, the EU must >>>> pay ‘farmers and foresters to thin forests, graze livestock and restore >>>> abandoned land’. It also recommended restoring peatlands, flood plains >>>> and wetlands to retain moisture. >>>> >>>> This strategy will take years to implement effectively. And, crucially, >>>> has the EU really got the will? At a meeting of agriculture >>>> ministers in >>>> Brussels in May, Environment Conmissioner Jessika Roswall announced >>>> that >>>> the Commission does ‘not plan any new initiatives on forest >>>> management’. >>>> >>>> The management of forests and land planning is also the preserve of >>>> individual governments and the EU has struggled for a unified approach. >>>> Brussels can recommend and encourage but it can’t force governments to >>>> act. Sweden and Finland are the most resistant to EU interference on >>>> forest management, while France also broadly believes the issue should >>>> be one of national competence. >>>> >>>> Critics claim there is no competence. There was a huge wildfire in the >>>> south-west of France in 2022, an area famous for its intensive maritime >>>> pine monoculture. Many hectares of pine trees were lost. The response? >>>> To replant thousands of pine trees in exactly the same layout. >>>> >>>> On Monday, Emmanuel Macron visited the Gironde department, in the >>>> south-west of France, where more than 40,000 hectares have been lost to >>>> flames this month. The president was confronted by the independent >>>> mayor >>>> of one town affected by the fire. >>>> >>>> ‘We need a better-maintained, larger firebreak, even if it means losing >>>> 1,000 or 2,000 hectares,’ said Bruno Lafon, the independent mayor of >>>> Biganos and the head of the association for the protection of forests >>>> against fire in his region. >>>> >>>> Lafon also took aim at politicians and environmentalists pontificating >>>> in Paris. ‘We need to stop talking,’ he said, adding that the Paris >>>> elite and the people whose homes are burning ‘no longer live in the >>>> same >>>> world’. >>>> >>>> The same rings true of the Brussels elite. It’s time to stop talking >>>> and >>>> take commonsense action. >>>> >>>> >>>> Gavin Mortimer >> > >