Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On 8/4/26 3:19 PM, Dude wrote:
> On 8/1/2026 6:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 8/1/26 12:21 PM, Dude wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2026 9:53 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/26 9:50 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>> On 7/31/2026 8:25 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/31/26 7:35 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 3:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 3:54 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 13:46:39 -0700, Dude 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 12:10 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 2:25:03?PM EDT, "Julian" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 31/07/2026 19:06, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32?PM EDT, "Wilson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warned in these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fire risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> centuries. Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forests. But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries), it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> term health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> massively grow and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wildfires yet we've had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks ago it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was otherwise a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looked like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strictly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforced laws
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laziness and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would probably be more effective than increasing the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> price
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of petrol, gas and electricity for already stretched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yah. And somebody should point out to the 'tree huggers' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burning actually saves more trees than not doing it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because left to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wildfires will continue to happen. And trees will burn 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even more so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the weather changes and encroachment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> given that u actually live in canada maybe u should spend 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> half a second
>>>>>>>>>>>>> researching what it takes to do effective fuel management 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forests ur actually talking about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> god boomers are so stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That should wrap up the discussion about the unspoken truth 
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> wildfires. Good work, Nick! You really trashed Tara's theory by
>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting that, since she lives in the Canadian forest, she 
>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>> research it using Grok.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Research nothing using grok.  Canada has forest managers, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> you can
>>>>>>>>>>> bet that they do what they can.  The certainly don't need us 
>>>>>>>>>>> telling
>>>>>>>>>>> them how to do their job.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That being said, no analysis of Canadian forest management can 
>>>>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>>>>> to the great analysis by Nick, who is now an expert in just about
>>>>>>>>>> everything, especially fire science and wildfire prevention.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> lol. Good one
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if dud had an actual critique on the argument he wouldn't be 
>>>>>>>> have to engaging in a _bear_ origin fallacy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You came here to learn fire science and forest management?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you came HERE to be enlightened???
>>>>>>
>>>>> So, what are you doing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently Nick doesn't even have home solar. He's probably using 
>>>>> way too much energy cooling his crib with an electric heat pump.
>>>>>
>>>>> At least Nick and Noah could set an example. YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> you came HERE to get eNlIgHtEnEd???
>>>>
>>> Let's not be hypocritical! You and Noah could do something to help 
>>> save the planet. Do nothing, do nothing, deny deny.
>>
>> let me ask again: you came HERE to get eNlIgHtEnEd???
>>
> Let me ask Nick and Noah why don't you do something?

because collective problems will only be solved collectively moron

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