Re: Private Property

On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:
> On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:
>>> On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in 
>>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. 
>>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing 
>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were 
>>>>> "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among 
>>>>> them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
>>>>>
>>>>> Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about 
>>>>> in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 – "lives, liberties, 
>>>>> and estates, which I call by the general name, property," and 
>>>>> broadened it.  They presupposed that property was necessary for 
>>>>> liberty and that the greater aspiration behind private property was 
>>>>> "pursuit of happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my 
>>>>> tradition).
>>>>>
>>>>> Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, 
>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights 
>>>>> that "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of 
>>>>> acquiring and possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and 
>>>>> obtaining happiness and safety."  The founding fathers were not 
>>>>> waxing and waning philosophically – well, they were not /only/ 
>>>>> doing that – they were expressing the lived experience of the 
>>>>> settlers in the new world.
>>>>>
>>>>> The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was 
>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership 
>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was 
>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.  Communal 
>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a 
>>>>> failed theory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to 
>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own 
>>>>> labor. It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that 
>>>>> align with human nature.
>>>>>
>>>>> David L. Bahnsen
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and 
>>>> flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a 
>>>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of 
>>>> movement
>>>>
>>> You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not.
>>>
>>> You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at home 
>>> on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody is forcing 
>>> you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in marriage, especially 
>>> just after giving birth. YMMV.
>>>  >
>>>> this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is 
>>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning 
>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
>>>>
>>> You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, you 
>>> have a human right to pleasure yourself!
>>>  >
>>>>   > what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
>>>>
>>> It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
>>>  >
>>>>   > #god
>>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 people 
>> of the entire planet to their respective nation states in service of 
>> the only principle they actually care about: private property
>>
> You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation states.

you are retarded

> 
> You snipped this out:
> 
> The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from birth 
> in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which 
> proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and 
> rights".

well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are chained 
to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement

> 
>> fuck you you dumb boomer cunt
>>
> You snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
> 
> We studied this in school: The French Revolution
> 
> The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789.. 
> Established private property as a basic human right. How?
> 
> By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for 
> individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.

see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of addressing the 
fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to simply walk around freely

> 
>>   > get rebirthed into a 3rd world shithole
>>   >
>>   > #god
>>
> 

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