Re: Private Property

On 8/11/2026 1:45 PM, dart200 wrote:
> On 8/11/26 11:52 AM, Dude wrote:
>> On 8/10/2026 9:56 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 8/10/26 5:25 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/2026 2:41 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>> On 8/10/26 2:36 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/10/2026 11:37 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be 
>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in many ways to an economic ideology centered around 
>>>>>>>>>>>> private property. It gives me extraordinary joy to see how 
>>>>>>>>>>>> our founders, in writing the Declaration of Independence, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> declared that all men were "endowed by their Creator with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> certain unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the pursuit of happiness."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote 
>>>>>>>>>>>> about in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 – "lives, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and estates, which I call by the general name, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> property," and broadened it.  They presupposed that property 
>>>>>>>>>>>> was necessary for liberty and that the greater aspiration 
>>>>>>>>>>>> behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we 
>>>>>>>>>>>> call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was 
>>>>>>>>>>>> written, George Mason had codified in the Virginia 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Declaration of Rights that "the enjoyment of life and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing 
>>>>>>>>>>>> property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining 
>>>>>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."  The founding fathers were not waxing 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and waning philosophically – well, they were not / only/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing that – they were expressing the lived experience of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the settlers in the new world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our 
>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was one of private ownership driving incentives, of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> communal ownership discouraging productive work, and one 
>>>>>>>>>>>> where resentment was inevitable when rewards were equal, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>> effort was not. Communal ownership of property had failed in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> practice because it was first a failed theory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Private property is a natural right that flows from our 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> fruits of our own labor. It produces responsibility, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> stewardship, and abundance that align with human nature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> David L. Bahnsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about 
>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 
>>>>>>>>>>> are enslaved to a nation-state system that coercively 
>>>>>>>>>>> interferes with basic freedom of movement
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or 
>>>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully 
>>>>>>>>>> at home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully 
>>>>>>>>>> nobody is forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens 
>>>>>>>>>> in marriage, especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>> this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can 
>>>>>>>>>>> do is keep crying endlessly about private property, as 
>>>>>>>>>>> violently owning stuff is the _only_ principle you actually 
>>>>>>>>>>> care about
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, 
>>>>>>>>>> you have a human right to pleasure yourself!
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>>   > what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>>   > #god
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 
>>>>>>>>> people of the entire planet to their respective nation states 
>>>>>>>>> in service of the only principle they actually care about: 
>>>>>>>>> private property
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation 
>>>>>>>> states.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you are retarded
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You snipped this out:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights 
>>>>>>>> from birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human 
>>>>>>>> Rights, which proclaims that "all human beings are born free and 
>>>>>>>> equal in dignity and rights".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are 
>>>>>>> chained to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal 
>>>>>> Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the 
>>>>>> time, 48 voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2 
>>>>>> were absent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> fuck you you dumb boomer cunt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We studied this in school: The French Revolution
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 
>>>>>>>> 1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal 
>>>>>>>> protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the 
>>>>>>>> Rights of Man.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of 
>>>>>>> addressing the fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to 
>>>>>>> simply walk around freely
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 8 Abstaining Countries:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saudi Arabia (objected to certain articles, such as freedom of 
>>>>>> religion and the right to change one's religion, viewing them as 
>>>>>> contrary to Islamic law)South Africa (abstained due to its 
>>>>>> apartheid system, which conflicted with the declaration's 
>>>>>> principles on racial equality)
>>>>>> Soviet Union
>>>>>> Belarus
>>>>>> Ukrainian
>>>>>> Czechoslovakia
>>>>>> Poland
>>>>>
>>>>> is this supposed to somehow defend the rest of world which hasn't 
>>>>> managed basic freedom or movement??? idgaf what anyone signed dud,
>>>>>
>>>> Like I said:
>>>>
>>>
>>> ur an absolute fucking unrepentant sinner unworthy of the air you 
>>> breath dud. find a grave and sit in it
>>>
>> Like I said:
>>
> 
> choke on a large dick until you die u subhuman ape
> 
We studied this in Elementary School:

99.9% of all people on the entire planet live in nation states. There 
only a very tiny minority of people that are stateless.

We studied this in High School:

Over 99.9 of all nation states are in the system and 100% of all people 
on the planet are in it for the money.

We studied this in community college:

The French Revolution. The revolution ended noble land monopolies and 
peasant dues in 1789.. Established private property as a basic human right.

We studied this at university:

There's just not much an individual can do to alter the private monetary 
system of free market capitalism, so go fuck yourself.