Re: as an anarchist, i'm pretty disappointed with guns nuts ...

On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 10:46:52 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 8/16/2026 11:33 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 13:37:43 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/13/2026 4:42 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i'm not voting for anyone who doesn't think gun rights are
>>>>>>>>>> universal you stupid anti-freedom turd
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How is it that you understand self-defense (which is the basis of
>>>>>>>>> gun rights) is a universal right but somehow /property/ does not
>>>>>>>>> rise to the same level?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> because they aren't the same thing, and do not have the same
>>>>>>>> properties
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> self-defense is inherently self-limiting to to oneself. unlike
>>>>>>>> property rights it does not expand arbitrarily. the unbounded
>>>>>>>> expansions of property rights, on the other hand, then can
>>>>>>>> interfere with the basic freedoms of others, whereas defense of
>>>>>>>> one's actual self does not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> nvm the fact that gun rights aren't even about self-defense like
>>>>>>>> cons endlessly bleat on about ???, that is best left to a legal/
>>>>>>>> policing system. gun rights are fundamentally about democratizing /
>>>>>>>> common defense/ against tyranny (both internally and externally),
>>>>>>>> not "self- defense"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Defending against a tyrannical government is just self defense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> except it's not /just/ self-defense because tyranny functions at the
>>>>>> collective level rather than just the interpersonal one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i get that u don't acknowledge the existence of collective dynamics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whether is a bunch of people or a single individual the principle is
>>>>> the same.
>>>>
>>>> except they aren't cause you can't use orgs like the police to deal with
>>>> common defense against internal tyranny since they would be the agents
>>>> of tyranny...
>>>>
>>>> u can you use orgs like the police to deal with mere criminals, and it
>>>> is in fact a better paradigm than wantonly dumping a bunch of guns in
>>>> society like brain dead americunts who can't accept basic facts measured
>>>> across various societies insist we keep doing
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact
>>>>>>>>> property?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of
>>>>>>>> property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms of others
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief system", as
>>>>>>>> it's not established upon principles that u actually uphold generally
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty clear
>>>>>>> your ethics would require you to redistribute partial ownership of
>>>>>>> your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his own so you need
>>>>>>> to share.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You should be glad to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we should
>>>>>> actively train and arm the population (to some high percentage). and
>>>>>> i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime because it's
>>>>>> advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to have a distributed
>>>>>> the common defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun
>>>>>> production to achieve this
>>>>>
>>>>> And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
>>>>
>>>> progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud
>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will stop
>>> the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
>> 
>> So you think guns for citizens will stop government if they get too
>> despotic.
>> 
>> Ok, good luck with that.
> >
>Who do you think has the most guns?

I am more concerned about who has the least.  That is me.  That way, I
can be pretty sure I won't kill anybody.  Because, you know what, I
don't want to be living with that the rest of my life.

And yes, I have known guys who came back from a war zone troubled that
they killed people, even if it was their job to do that and even if it
was self defense.  
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