Re: Google employee barred from promotion ‘for being a White man’

Julieta Shem <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.censorship,comp.misc,comp.internet.services.google
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
D <[email protected]> writes:

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> But... you are certainly right in what you are saying, but to a big
> extent this is due to government interfering in the markets, awarding
> companies enormous contracts and protecting them. So you have a
> downward spiral.

If governments are put together by companies, it's expected that they
would protect companies when necessary.  To dismantle government, we
need to take the power off companies in the first place.

> Remove the government and the rest will follow.

Can't remove government if you don't weaken the power of companies.
Government, which we see as opposed to companies, is actually their
secret weapon.

I don't think that what governments do is so difficult that interested
regular people can't do themselves.  An interesting idea is
``sortition'': make ineffective company investment in government.
Instead of providing companies easy, docile politicians to work for
them, let them deal with regular people.  Some of these new government
officials will be failures, but what about the /average/ case?  

I believe in people, but I recognize the fact that they appear totally
vulnerable to propaganda.  So I also realize that we need to protect
them from propaganda itself, therefore we need to weaken the power of
companies.  We won't achieve this protection by making government more
powerful because that means making companies more powerful.  We untie
government from companies by making companies investment in government
ineffective.  Instead of selecting government by popularity, we select
government by random choice.

> Now, one last thing. I admit that I am arguing for a "utopian state"
> and I admit that we are today _not_ living in this utopian state. The
> question of _how_ to get from today, to a world without governments,
> and with only individuals and companies is a different, but very
> interesting question.

I think everything here is doable.  We need to make our belief in
people's capacity to happen.
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