Re: The Everyday Misery of Life Under Israeli Occupation

On 5/24/21 3:41 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 5/24/2021 12:38 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 5/24/21 2:20 PM, Bill Flett wrote:
>>> On 5/24/2021 12:19 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>> On 5/24/21 9:29 AM, Bill Flett wrote:
>>>>> On 5/24/2021 7:09 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 24 May 2021 06:53:05 -0700, Bill Flett <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/24/2021 5:25 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/23/21 11:05 PM, Bill Flett wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/2021 5:49 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/21 10:08 AM, Bill Flett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 2:16 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/21 2:22 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> An eviction in East Jerusalem lies at the center of a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict that led to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> war between Israel and Hamas. But for millions of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palestinians, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> routine indignities of occupation are part of daily life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> By David M. Halbfinger and Adam Rasgon
>>>>>>>>>>>>> May 22, 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JERUSALEM — Muhammad Sandouka built his home in the shadow 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Temple
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mount before his second son, now 15, was born.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They demolished it together, after Israeli authorities 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided that razing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it would improve views of the Old City for tourists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Sandouka, 42, a countertop installer, had been at work 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspector confronted his wife with two options: Tear the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> house down, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the government would not only level it but also bill the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sandoukas $10,000
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for its expenses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Such is life for Palestinians living under Israel’s 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupation: always
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dreading the knock at the front door.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The looming removal of six Palestinian families from their 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> homes in East
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerusalem set off a round of protests that helped ignite 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest war
>>>>>>>>>>>>> between Israel and Gaza. But to the roughly three million 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palestinians
>>>>>>>>>>>>> living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, which Israel 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> captured in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1967 war and has controlled through decades of failed peace 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> talks, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> story was exceptional only because it attracted an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> international spotlight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the most part, they endure the frights and indignities 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Israeli
>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupation in obscurity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even in supposedly quiet periods, when the world is not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paying attention,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palestinians from all walks of life routinely experience 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exasperating
>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossibilities and petty humiliations, bureaucratic 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> controls that force
>>>>>>>>>>>>> agonizing choices, and the fragility and cruelty of life 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> under military
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rule, now in its second half-century.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/us/israel-gaza-conflict.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Israel stole the West Bank.  Its occupation of it is illegal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Israel took the West Bank in a defensive war
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter what the nature of the war was.  Taking 
>>>>>>>>>>> territory in war
>>>>>>>>>>> is illegal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yet it seems you would have no problem with the Palestinians 
>>>>>>>>>> destroying Israel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Israel never should have come into existence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No valid reason to create a new state based on a toxic 
>>>>>>> combination of ethnicity
>>>>>>> and religion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look up the UN resolution that created the state of Israel and 
>>>>>
>>>>> You've never read Resolution 181.  It doesn't address why Jews 
>>>>> demanded a nation-state based on their toxic combination of 
>>>>> ethnicity and religion.
>>>>
>>>> Question, why is the Jewish "combination of ethnicity and religion" 
>>>> toxic
>>>
>>> Self evident.
>>
>> I see,
> 
> You don't.  You never do.

While you are consistently unable to answer the simplest question.